Assuming youâve inspected real good for any bugs? Itâs the only thing Iâve seen in person put holes in leaves. Or maybe water on leaves during lights on, but that looked differently.
Dam it! Ya know, as I looked at it this morning, bugs came to mind BUT how??? And then I remember that I placed a self enclosed Venus fly trap seedling in there for the extra light. Could that have had something on it? Dam it!!!
Now what??? I read something about a mix of something naturalâŠ
Iâm searching
The bugs seem to find their ways in regardless sometimes. You can definitely see what the others think.
Iâm pretty sure food grade de is most popular method, but I also think @garrigan62 has a natural recipe. I just donât remember what it is.
I do have something but can you get a pic of the critters, that way i`am not wasting your time on something thatâs not going to work.
Will
Awesome! I knew you would be all over it!
I just need to know as close as we can what they are so that we`er were killing them
By the way, how you been ?
Thanks so much for chiming in @garrigan62
I havenât actually seen any bugs so if I get home early enough Iâll check before lights out. Failing that Iâll thoroughly inspect tomorrow morning when I wake up and the lights are on 
Stand by 
That particular area did show signs of red spider mites around the window sills. Someone use to live up in that attic and had lots of small plants around the windows. But that, geeeeez, was almost a year ago. Itâs 
ââing me!!! Almost tempted to drive home and inspect. Hopefully Iâll get outta here in time to look tonight.
@garrigan62
There are no bugs. Inspected top to bottom and tent
No bugs. I removed the offending leaf.
It looks burned
Sorry it looks a little chewed up but Iâve manhandled ( my middle name is not Grace) it a bit since I snipped it and, of course, itâs dead.
Could that be the result of clumsy handling of the nutes?
I will keep a close eye on things
How do I raise my ppm?
Itâs been running very low around 584 / 610
Per GH flora trio chart
And btw Good morning 
Never ask me a question like that cause this is what happensâŠlmao
This is quite large but very important that you have it all. Just copy and paste it into your files
Knowing What Your Plants Are Eating and How Much They Can Handle
October 20, 2016 by Devin Martinez
One big question growers ask is âWhy are my plants suffering even though I used all the right nutrients, feeding cycles, lighting cycles, and adjusted temperatures and conditions to their absolute best?â
Thatâs because their pH and PPM levels are off, making it difficult for your plants to eat. pH refers to potential of Hydrogen ions in your water, which will determine if your water is too acidic or has too much alkaline in it. PPM (parts per million) refers to the concentration of minerals and soluble matter in your watering solution.
Correct pH and PPM levels are the backbone of any grow, and will be the difference between a healthy grow and a huge waste of time and money.
pH Levels
Simply put: the right pH level will create an environment where your plants can absorb nutrients quickly and easily, leading to a better harvest.
Nutrient-rich water is filled with elements that are helpful to your plants. However, if those elements can be broken down properly those same elements can harm your plants.
pH levels is important to understand because the right level will determine the quality of helpful bacteria in your water that help break down elements, helping the metabolic rate of your plants. How? In two ways:
? When pH levels are too low (pH level of around 5 of lower), heavy metals like iron and aluminum change and can become toxic to your plants
? If the pH level is too high (pH level of around 6.5 or higher) elements like calcium and phosphorus canât be broken down completely, which will hinder the growth of your plants
This change in properties is due to how acidic your water is or is not. Youâll want your plantsâ nutrients to be a little acidic otherwise they canât break down, but too much acidity and your nutrients can become toxic.
So remember: pH too low= toxic to your plants, too high= growth decrease. Thatâs why you want to have the perfect level of acidity in your water, which will be around 5.5-6.0
Typical pH Levels
? 3.5 and below: Root Damage
? 4.0-4.5: Poor Nutrient Uptake
? 5.0-5.4: Good pH Level
? 5.4-5.8: Perfect pH Level
? 6.0-7.0: Acceptable pH Balance
? 7.5-8.0: Poor Nutrient Uptake
? 8.5 and Above: Root Damage
Note: Soil grown plants tend to need a little bit higher of a pH than hydroponics because soil retains and releases certain elements to your plants at different times. However, both hydroponic and soil pH levels should stay within the same optimal range of 5.5-6.0 pH.
PPM Levels
PPM (Parts Per Million) refers to concentration of the particulates in your feeding solution.
From minerals found in tap water to natural elements found in your nutrients, your job is to make sure that the PPM levels in your water solution are on point so youâre not under- or over-feeding your plants. While itâs an easy concept to understand on the surface, itâs a little more complicated when you have to adjust elements.
Now, pH plays a huge factor in PPM levels because even though you may have the correct PPM reading, some of the particles- and the concentration of those particles- can be harmful for your plants.
For example, letâs say your plants need to be at a PPM level of 700. You mix your solution and you get a PPM reading of 700 but your pH is around 4.5. That means that the majority of the available food for your plants is likely to have lots of heavy metals in it, which will quickly toxify the plant. Youâll need to adjust the pH level of your solution to make sure youâre not toxifying your plants.
âBut wonât that throw my PPM levels off because youâre adding particles to your feeding solution?â It can, and thatâs whatâs so tricky about PPM and pH levels: When you adjust one you usually have to adjust the other, which can be simple or a huge pain depending on the water and nutrients youâre feeding your plants.
Common PPM Readings
These readings reflect the PPM your water should have at a given stage of growth
? Seedlings: 100-250 (nutrients arenât really needed here, hence thereâs not a lot of particles needed)
? First Half of Vegging Cycle: 300-400 (this is usually after you transplant, which still donât require many nutrients)
? Second Half of Vegging: 450-700 (youâll start giving your plants more nutrients at this stage)
? First Half of Flowering: 750-950 (your plants will be eating more as they grow, so theyâll be taking in more nutrients)
? Second Half of Flowering: 1000-1600 (this is when your plantâs eating the most, especially if you give it additives)
? End of Flower, Entering Harvest: As close to 0 as possible (this is when youâll be flushing your plants, so you donât want there to be a lot of particles left over)
Adjusting pH Levels
When it comes to feeding plants thereâs two ways of looking at it: homemade or store bought.
Same goes with balancing your pH: you can either purchase a pH buffer from a store or you can use ingredients you can find around your home or in the grocery storeâ but both come with their advantages and disadvantages.
Homemade pH Buffers
? Advantage: If pH levels are low you can use a little citric acid or even white vinegar to help bring your waterâs pH down. When you need to raise your pH levels you can use a little bit of baking soda in your solution and bring those readings back up. This will cost you less than picking up a buffering solution.
? Disadvantage: The issue with using these solutions is that they donât work for very long. Youâll find yourself having to add a little lemon juice every other day, then having to use a little baking soda to even things out. Moreover, weâve also heard of growers using these ingredients and seeing severe spikes in pH, which if not handled properly and quickly and bring your grow to a halt.
Premade pH Buffers
? Advantage: Most hydroponic companies out there will have pH buffers, usually called . Theyâre much easier to use than citric acid or white vinegar mixes. Theyâre designed raise and lower the pH of your water while keeping your waterâs pH levels balanced for longer than it would be without them.
? Disadvantage: As weâve always mentioned, easier usually means more expensive. These solutions usually wonât cost you an arm and a leg, but theyâre definitely something you canât simply make at home and will cost some money.
Adjusting PPM Levels
Before you start adjusting your PPM levels, youâll first want to make sure your tap water is ready to feed your plants. That means youâll want to adjust the PPM of your base water before you start feeding it to your plantsNow, any time you add anything in to your watering solution, youâll be adding more particles in to it, so keep an eye out on your PPM levels at all times.
? To rid your water of too many particles you can use things like a carbon filter or a reverse osmosis machine to clean your water. However, many growers agree that most tap water has helpful minerals (like calcium and magnesium) that actually help plants.
? During and after the vegging stage, your plants will want more out of their feedings so filtering isnât really necessary. Thatâs why we recommend only using filters at the beginning of the plants life when low PPM readings are needed
? For a quick fix when PPMâs are high just add a bit of fresh water with a good pH level and watch them drop. Filtered, pHâed water is great when things get a little too much in your reservoirs.
? When readings are low itâs usually time to feed your plants. When you add nutrients to your feeding solution your PPMâs will go back up, and when your PPMâs and pHâs are in balance your plants are going to be happy and healthy.
? Just remember that these readings need constant adjustment, so if you havenât been keeping a close eye on your plantâs PPM and pH levels thereâs not better time to start than now.
Thanks man 
I appreciate it and I will make my way through that today
@garrigan62
Ok so it looks like I could possibly be under feeding though I am close. But not TOO far off. Thanks so much for taking the time.
Iâm super happy I donât have âs lol
Day 47. Early Bloom
Lola. Lil girl
Ph 577. 602 (Iâm outta ph down or I would adjust. New bottle due todayđđ»)
Ppm 924. 868
Tent temps 68 to 86
Water temps 67 to 71
Humidity 39 to 63
Iâve kept my lights at 12/12 since they are Autos
Still keeping an 
out for bugs 
I very glad I could help. Sounds like your on the right track and no bugs is awesome. Hope you saved that post to your files for future reference.
Will
You bet I did
Great, please keep me posted as I would like to follow your journal and the out come of your plants.
Your Friend
Will
But thereâs a problem 
Iâm noticing a little puckering and the veins on the fan leaves are lighter. Is that normal?
I suspect that I might be over feeding and maybe lower the nutes to the minimum of 750 (now Iâm in the low 900).
Also, two mornings ago, I accidentally left the lid askew for the entire light period 
