Thats the sour d I was describing earlier. Im pretty happy with how theyve turned out so far. These were the ones I did in m.g. @Dr.ofSmokology haha I will say im going to stick with the m.g. for the outdoor grow next year and play around with nutrient levels very carefully. I didnt have too many bumps with it as far as I know for my first grow. Plus I got the 2 cubic ft yellow bags on clearance for .50 that price, ill make it work!