Vegation phase - plants look terrible - what's wrong?

Im a newbe growing pot. I have a plant that is in vegetative phase. Leaves are curling up and dropping off. I don’t know if I’m watering too much or too little. I am using SunPro Black Gold soil. I am going to switch to the Farm Ocean etc.soil discussed in this forum. Im using distilled water. and my light source is a 150 watt LED light. I’m using a 2X4 grow tent. I have attached some photos.

  1. it’s Probably outgrown the pot
  2. the soil is probably too wet
  3. switch to a 3-5 gallon cloth pot
  4. you’ll need a better light for flowering.

Fox farm ocean forest or happy frog are great soils.

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^ what he said and more.

You will get sorted here, good luck

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Welcome to ILGM! :v:

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Welcome bro these guys got you covered!

Good luck!

I’d add the distilled water is a problem for anything other than flushing. It’s using osmosis to pull nutrients out of the soil and perhaps the plant.

You want pH ~6.2 water that, at a minimum, has a mineral content. Spring water that’s been pH adjusted is probably fine.

@lchalupa Can you take a photo of the root system? You should be able to pull the plant out of the pot without too much trauma.

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welcome buddy, you will fix this. great people helping… :+1::grin: :grin:

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Northern Lights (fem)

• Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF
Organic Soil

• Vessels: Pots, Grow beds, Buckets, Troths
moving to 5lb. cloth potw was 3 inch clay pot

• PH of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)
distilled water - moving to spring water
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n/a
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Indoor
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150 W LED
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don’t know
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don’t know
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No
• AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,
None
• Co2; Yes, No
don’t know

Definitely ready for transplant. Clay pots retain to much water, best bet is fabric pots. Better drainage for root system. I tried distilled water… Did not turn out well, trial and error learning this wonderful art. I use tap water with a pH meter to check level and ph up/down kit to adjust as needed. I would recommend ffof or ffhf for soil (personal opinion). It would be helpful to know your tent size. You will definitely need more light, how much more depends on tent size. Also, ventilation and intake air circulation is necessary, plants need fresh air. Temp and humidity play a big role too. A humidity thermometer is cheap enough. As I said before this is personal opinion based on everything I learned here from so many wonderful people in this forum…best of luck…!!!

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Not to get too far off topic, but I found lowering the PPM’s for winter’s dryness helps mitigate stunting, in higher humility the plants do fine at a higher PPM setting, about 150 PPM differential, it seems the plants need more water with the salts when conditions are dry, otherwise they slightly stunt.

My guess? That plant is very over watered and suffering from root rot. Dryer conditions and a brush of sulfur powder around the stem may prevent it’s progression to stem rot.

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Can you clarify what you’re using? Organic soil? If i’m reading that right, what kind? and what are you using for nutrients?

Welcome friend, I’m also new here but at first look, the root ball isn’t even buried all the way in the soil. Looks like you may have already moved it to a 5 gallon cloth pot, good. How high is the light above the canopy, is it on a timer, and how long are they on? Do you have well water or city? Trim those dead leaves off. Aprox how long has it been growing? Good luck,

My grow tent is 2X4. Looking toward the future what do I need for a light? Presently, my light consists of one LED 150 watts light. I could just add a second light such as another LED 150 Watts? This unit does not have a daisy chain feature so that complicates the solution. What would you suggest?

How much money are you prepared to spend upfront, and how much do you care about grams per watt (i.e. your monthly electrical costs)?

2x4 normally you want about 50w per sq foot. So your looking at at least 400w for veg, and maybe 600w for flower.