Another question/variable in the equation for you hydro gurus out there…tandem to my last question would an increase in EC be wise in either situation? The way I see it I have two options, I could keep them on transitional nutes and perhaps raise the EC to 2.0.? Or I could change the solution to bloom food and try and keep the ec at 1.8 for now and see how the ones in stretch react to the bloom food. I use general hydroponics three part with some calmag just to be clear.
It’s getting crowded in there! Aggressive growth this week has the BB at 3ft tall!, with the amnesia haze at 16 and 20 inches respectively. All are getting bushier, and the smell is getting stronger. I ended up topping off last night with some bloom formula, but I didn’t do a whole reservoir change yet. Waiting on some guidance or to see how they act. I was hoping the bloom food might inspire the big girl to stop her vertical assault and concentrate on fattening up some nugs. (ILGM BBauto lists around 32 inches in the description so I hope it’s close to final height?)
I am going to have a similar issue when it comes time for flushing. Any forethought you guys can offer might help me plan ahead vs react in the coming weeks.
That is a four inch net pot to put the stalk into perspective, she’s beefy. Thanks all.
Looking nice ,interesting thread! Hope ya don’t mind me pulling up a chair…
Not at all! Welcome!
Thanks msnae, yours looks like she’s vegging nicely. I hope she’s a monster.
Been a week since my first posts and my big adjustment had been tweaking my tent to work with the new light set up. Currently the environment is around 85to87 degrees, 50-55% humidity, and 800 to1500ppm Co2 during lights on. Nighttime temp is getting down to 68 degrees. Nutrients are still transitional formula with an EC of 1.8/ph 6.0. As a result…
BB is standing tall at 40 inches and is really filling out the tent. The amnesia haze have also put on substantial growth both nearing 2ft. The one in the back is smaller and stunted in size, but is stacking buds almost as much as the blueberry on her few blossoming sights. The amnesia in the front corner is still acting like a late veg in my limited knowledge, but looks like the healthiest of the bunch still. Since I switched my lights over, consecutive days of 3 to 4 inch growth have been the norm. Thanks to all who offered their guidance this week, I don’t think I’d have that monster in my tent if people hadn’t talked me into the 600 watt light and moving my fans. Really excited for the weeks to come…
I would think 85-87 would be a little warm in there. Do you have a vpd chart to follow?
I do and I wish I could get buy humidity down a bit more, but I am also trying to have some faith in the light’s recommended running ambient temp. It’s recommended to run your tent at 85. They assert that a normally ideal 75 to 78 degrees won’t metabolize as well and doesn’t heat up the leaves and it should be run 10 degrees hotter. Is this a common thing with LED’s?
Sorry for being MIA wrapped up a job and just got home after 2 weeks away the getting a drug test tomorrow and a job on Friday… So I been busy as most days off are.
Ignore what the manufacturer said about Temps follow a VPD chart, although for true VPD you need a temp gun to be able to take leaf temp.
Until you get one follow the standard VPD chart, it’s the best science available regardless of crops VPD works and we know how truthful the light manufacturers have been to you,
I would keep feeding grow until the stretch is over as plants will be hungry for nitrogen.
The best GH formula out there I’ve heard of it’s @Not2SureYet’s it’s not the same as the manufacturers but he’s proving very solid results time and time again for years.
Also maybe get a work light to take pictures with a florescent bulb or a cool color temp led bulb.
It’s impossible to tell what’s going on with your plants under grow lights
I don’t know co2 values because I don’t supplement nor do I have a gauge.
@Sirsmokesalot is just getting into it and like I said earlier @Stonedrus runs co2 but I’m sure you can find it pretty easy with a google search to.
Don’t be afraid to bump your feed up a little bit, keep a close eye on tip burn. Your in hydro so your plants will react very fast that’s a double edged sword to be managed appropriately
Thanks @Nicky! Lots of good feedback there. No apologies please, life is busy and best of luck to you on your test.
As long as my heat pads don’t over heat the fake urin I’ll be fine lol, so stupid cuz they called me the sya after I got home so I smoked two bags off my volcano the night I came home… So now ill fail.
Otherwise I was at work so long I could have passed without a kit l😿
A lot of over the counter detox drinks work - for weed atleast but if you got the urine that’s a slam dunk. So stupid they test for weed - I have a large say at my job and made sure to swing we don’t test for weed policy in our handbook lol I’d rather have stoners work for me vs drunks or pill poppers. Our best employees are known stoners
Monitor your heat at canopy level with a solid hygrometer. Efficient leds can run solid (higher ppfd) at greater distances vs cheapo blurples. I would strive for higher than 80. 70-80 is my sweet spot for veg. I’m just starting co2 as @Nicky stated so I could get by with a little extra heat but I’ve never used co2 in the past because you have to have all your stuff nailed down to see any benefits. Might be something you wanna wait on for now.
I started with trio - I would definitely go light and only feed every third watering good luck let us know if we can help moving forward
I don’t trust the drinks i feel like there is a margin for error there.
With the whizz kit it’s no chance of failing unless you get busted packing it.
Which is why I bought the stash boxers =p
Also they may come In handy for when we want to sneak something into a concert /festival lol I couldn’t easily pack a couple pre rolls in there. Could pack a vape but the buldge would be noticeable lol
Massive growth. Hundreds of bud sights. Check out the pic from Nov. 20th for comparison of 13 days ago. The blueberry and the shorter amnesia haze you can’t see anymore is getting some frost, they are at 46 inches and 2ft tall. The amnesia in the front right has three tops that are all 3 foot tall. I have the worlds most uneven canopy, so how do you think they will stack up?
You ever heard of super cropping?
The sativa dominant strains are prone to alot of stretching. LST, cropping, topping/fimming are all ways to keep your canopy down, but should only be done throughout certain intervals in the plants life.
The Indicas typically stay shorter and bushier. Hybrids can go either way. Your plants look great! If anything, right now i would just tie the tops of those plants down. Put a string in the adjacent corner from the taller plants, tie a string from the corner to the top of the plant, bend it over as much as you can without breaking it, and tie it off. The buds and leaves will all turn back towards the light while your shorter ones dont have to work as hard to play catch up
Thanks @DefNSmokn. I’ve done my homework and understand the different kinds high and low stress training, but I’ve never tried any of them. My plan for this first grow was just to let them do their thing and gain the experience of what a plant does on it’s own before I tried any training. I didn’t think I would ever have plants as large as they are now lol. I ended up securing the main stalk of the BB because she was starting to tilt. I tried to see if I could bent that high cola a bit, but the stalk is super woody and just doesn’t wanna move much. I’m scared to force to much on em now. I am definitely planning ahead for my next grow and want to endeavor in some LST and try to keep them generally shorter with a more even canopy, and probably only go with two plants not three next time as well.
@Nicky suggested to wait a bit and then do some defoliation/lollipopping. I don’t know if I’m there yet but I’d love to know what you auto flower gurus would prescribe. The BB has been shedding some of the dead/nute burned leaves so it’s getting some better light and a little less dense all around. I have not cut or removed anything else.
Some update snaps. First one just shows how crowded it’s getting and how the Blueberry is shedding her damaged fan leaves. Pics 2 through 4 are bud pics from the amnesia haze and the remaining pics are buds from the blueberry, you can still see swine damage.