Wooo hooo, i am excited! verified my seeds shipped today, went to my local “turn key” systems people who are helping me get started. they have their own potting mix that they said I will not have to add any fertilizer during the vegetative time and that I will not need a ppm to check for that then. they said that I might have to add some stuff during flowering but they have that covered for me. I am a little doubtful but i have put myself in their hands to make sure that my first try works. The light they are going to put in the tent is the sun systems 315 LEC. I just did a bunch of chasing online to try and get some of the tech specs and looked at some reviews from growers and it looks good but now I am thinking to use this for my first tent as the veg tent and possibly put in qbs for my second tent for flowering. @dbrn32 and I discussed this light yesterday or the day before and he said that the lec315 doesn’t really have the oomph to handle a 4x4 grow. Would this be a good idea to use it as a veg tent light and then get the qb into my flowering tent. I am on a 400 to 500 dollars a month budget to throw at this project. with the seeds taking 5 to 15 days due to “regular” shipping by the time i should go to flowering i think i can have enough saved up to do the qbs. oops forgot this part, they have two different bulbs, 32something and 4200 i think. I’m not sure but i think the 4200 is better for veg so that is what i should get, right?
The 315 is a great light, just better fit for 3x3 when flowering. I do feel like it would veg a 4x4 nicely, but I’ve never seen one in person for space that big.
how much do i need to save up to get the QB in my second tent? and do i need more than one for 4x4x6?
I would do two of the xl 260 kits. They’re about $350 each.
I was still chasing around @dbrn32 and the 630 LEC with the two lights (i would put the 3200 bulbs for that) is around $590 and that is designed for the 4x4 tent. Now that i understand about the light spectrum, does the QB’s have the UV-A, B, and C like the LECs? After reading what that does for the plants i’m really considering staying with the LEC for my flower tent if the 630 with two 3200 bulbs would have the balls to handle the area. I’m sure some would have one 4200 and one 3200 bulb in them but i would specialize for each tent.
from what i’ve read the three UV types really help with resin, taste, and other things
Qb has none of the above. I’ve read that too, i just wonder why we don’t see them in more commercial grows. They seem about as common as leds.
Dbrn32 is correct the 315 won’t cover a 4x4 but the 630 will . I have been growing with ceramics for a cupple year’s now and I am a big fan of them. I have not tried a QB yet though
@dbrn32 and @Gardenguy thanks for the input d. I suspect that it is just a matter of all the stuff being thrown at the market right now. LED’s are the “IN” thing right now and lots are working that way, but I really like the spectrum of the LEC. I am happy you are using the LEC g. Do you use both types of bulbs? was I right in wanting two 3200’s in my 615 and one 4200 in my 315?
Again thanks a bunch for all your help guys.
The young lady I deal with for my turn key is the type of gal that spends hours and hours researching this stuff because of her med problems which prolly drew her to the lec’s. she tried the led’s and they didn’t have the oomph so she went with these. but she also said that i could use the 315 for my flower so i don’t think she has a complete grasp and she also bought the blurple.
I am courently running a 4200k cmh and a 600w ceramic hps. both lights have been producing plants with short internodes and very nice resin production
ahh, so you don’t have the double LEC fixture? was hoping to get a heads up before i tried it(i’m a chicken poop) lol I am hoping with the 615 that it will be plenty for my 4 plants.
My cmh is a 375w conversation bulb which runs on my old 400w magnetic ballast unfortunately it never went on the market so I can’t get another one but I have been using it nonstop for over two years now and still no stretching on my plants (probably not much longer though) the 630 will out produce it they are great lights. I will probably be picking one up when my 375 gives up
kk, thanks for the heads-up @Gardenguy. my budget is 400 a month and if i get the 315 first then i won’t be able to afford the 615 the next month, if i can get the 615 first i can wait til harvest done to get the second light going which gives me 2 or 3 months to work my budget out. this will be great, it is like all the stuff is starting to come together. just hope my gardening can utilize my planning. but i have lots of confidence in the guys here, just got to get a good camera to post shots lol. thanks for your reinforcement G.
@monkman when you pick up your light I recommend getting some sun glasses also. I have noticed a serious change in my vision since I started using ceramic bulbs (I should have worn glasses)
I’m not sure wher i seen spec sheet, but i feel like the Phillips bulb was like 20,000 hours with something like 30% reduction in output over that span. I could be mistaken though.
Ok @dbrn32 I am not even a little good at math but it sounds like you are telling me that bulb will have a 30 percent reduction in output in 4 years of 12/12 is that correct?
If that info is correct off top of my head. I can go look for it again, i know i found on accident once before lol. Nothing saying that other bulb provides same performance, but i feel those phillips green power bulbs are pretty good. Way better than standard hps anyway.
Glad i looked, typical lumen maintenance is 80% at 20,000 hours not 70%. So better than i thought. Typical failure rate:
5% at 12,500 hours
10% at 16,000 hours
50% at 30,000 hours
What do they consider failure burning out ?
@dbrn32 @Gardenguy so do you guys think 4 315 lec or 2 630 would be better in a 486 1/2 tent