Hi Guys,
Im growing Indoors under LED, 2 Gal Pot, Super Soil
Im at 3 weeks Flower and havent noticed any stretch and only slight buds forming… Throughout Veg I did notice leaf tips browning and thought maybe the soil was a little too hot for her.
Now in flower her leaves are starting yellow further soo early on it seems
This is my first grow, any help would be appreciated… cheers
She doesn’t look too bad! Does like like burn she’s suffering from. I’ll be of no help on remedying that in your type of soil but I’m sure someone will chime in on that.
I have found that I see a negative correlation between amount of growth points I train the plant into having and amount of stretch. More growth points, tops, colas, whatever you call em = less stretch. Just my personal observations.
She does look good. I’m trying to figure out if I’m seeing slight yellowing on some of the lower leaves or if it’s just the way the light is hitting them 
. Do you have any way of checking your runoff at all as those figures will be key in deciding what’s actually going on down there.
If your lower leaves are starting to yellow then the slow growth and the yellow lower leaves could potentially be the start of a nitrogen issue.
Thanks for the feedback, I was hoping more tops would equal more bigger buds… but from this it seems it may have reduced the size of them… ILGM did say best grown SOG with this strain, so am wondering If this was going to always happen with this amount of training and messing about
I think the answer is yes. With equal veg time training the way you have will reduce weight in buds. You could veg for way longer and end up with the same amount of bud. I train heavily but don’t remove or stunt while doing it. End result is a compact plant (size is you choice. Just train to that effect and flip at appropriate time). If size is a concern you could do something like this without slowing the plant down, just redirecting it.
So from the start I have always just given tap water that has been sitting in a glass large with cheese cloth over the top for at least 24hours (big debate on whether or not you need to PH living soil)
As I have noticed more deficiencies I got myself a Apera PH tester and measured the input at 7.7PH, havent measured the runoff as yet…
PPM at last runoff 9 days ago was 1830ppm, I have read this would and should be high anyway as you want high nutes in the soil… the microbes will break down what is needed so dont worry too much on the PPM (only if really low)
I heavily trained my girl, at first I thought I was just LSTing but it seems I was main lining…
She was in veg for 67 days
here is an earlier shot
She is only in a 2 gal pot as i needed it to be stealth and had no idea what to do… maybe she hadnt had a chance to grow large enough branches/root system
Oh yeah you definitely did some sort of mainline like action. I’m not overly familiar with the process. Just know theres a good bit of stunting and removal from the little I watched and read.
haha that was my first attempt at Low stress training not knowing what to do… I still dont really know how I would LST or what to do in the next grown TBH… My idea was to top and then just keep pulling the braches away from the centre/growing upwards
That’s a solid plan. My suggestion - top her. Then WAIT for the branches to grow. You can’t train a two inch branch. Well you can. But you lost me.
When they get some length then work horizontally to build a base. Then when you have a nice shape go vertical. I don’t use let bends at all anymore, I’ve done too much damage. All supercropping now. Much safer for the plant. Imo
it seems bizarre but what you described seems harder in my head, maybe just because I have never done it before. All i did was top then made sure everything was seperated and stayed low/even canopy
Any links that you can recommend… TBH I dont know If my brain is just dumb but I cant figure it out haha
So I guess you didn’t mainline then. That involves removing branches and bud sites and it’s a whole thing. More like a zen garden process than a weed grow imo but looks cool in the end!
I’m not sure what your intentions are and what space you have to work with. But if you have at least 24" of space to grow in…not counting pot and light hanging / distance from canopy then you can let you plant grow vertically much more than you have. Then you have more stem for buds to grow on. That’s the basic simple bottom line. The training I described it’ll come organically. Top it. Leave it alone for a week or two. Then when you have 6-8" branches think about creating a shape and bring upper growth down to height of lower growth in a way as to make that shape. Then go vertical. Then come back down to even up with lower growth again. Until you have roughly the shape / size you want…accounting for the stretch that may come.
When I say go vertical that means you just leave it alone and let it grow.
I don’t have any links but everything you need is in this forum. Pick a grow log and read it from the beginning. I would bet most of these great growers are training and you can pick and choose what makes sense to you. My training was inspired by a mainliner but I never mainlined. I just though wow if he can do that I can bend these things however I want to.
Thanks @Eagles009
Much appreciated on the info given, I am gowning in a mini tent and realistically have probably 20 inches of grow room, this is why the whole time I just concentrated on keeping her as low as possible assuming ide see a double stretch… but like you said I could definitely allow her to grow bigger next time and
That plant pictured is only 22" tall FYI, and yw
so looking at your grow it seems you bent her straight away then topped her… how many cycles of LST do you do or is it something you do and then the branches grow uniformly vertical
I did this one differently because I mistreated her early and she was a tall skinny stick. So I supercropped the whole thing down to get a base started. With a healthy plant like these.
I would top, wait, and spread.It’s an ongoing process of creating an even canopy. So roughly once a week til I’m satisfied, out of space, bored, etc. Then flip.
As contrasted to a stick plant that needs to be reimagined.
Thanks @Eagles009
they are looking really nice!
not sure whether to cut my losses and get rid of my girl and start fresh or ride this out and hope for the best… tough call!
Oof at this point I would ride it out. She’s gonna fatten up int he coming weeks.
You could get a seedling going in a one gallon and get a nice plant started for transplant for when this one’s done. Or maybe even same size pot looks like you could shove another in there.
