Please help my brother with his clones

Could someone please merge the 2 topics containing the same grow, plants, and member.

Dz…We love you man but, please do not duplicate topics making the issue confusing, and extra work? Thanks for all your help and compassion :smiley:

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Sorry my friend, I started this one for my brother because he’s new and didn’t know how to do it, then he started one and didn’t tell me about, sorry for any confusion

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You need some better pictures. Closer up to the leaves. As close as you can get them and be in focus. Very hard to see anything at this point. All I can see is yellow leaves at the bottom of your plants. Could be several things. I am a newbie here though so will tag some better than me to help out.

@bob31 @Oldstoner @oldpro

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Could be a couple of things kind of looks like nute burn to me @Donaldj is really good at this but some clearer pics will help

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Thanks for doing a thread blood ,let’s see if any of you help him out,i say looks like nutrient burn but we need to get him to fill in a support ticket

You might want to fill those out to start with, hopefully we’ll get your problem solved soon Strain; Type, Bag seed, or NA

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco?

System type?

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir?

What is strength of nutrient mix?

Indoor or Outdoor,
Light system, size?

Temps; Day, Night

Humidity; Day, Night
Ventilation system;

AC, Humidifier,
Co2

Thanks everyone, I thought maybe nutrient burn to start with but it’s hard say ,this is my brother everyone so please try to help him out

@Majiktoker @kabongster @DoomSack @Myfriendis410 @Hogmaster @latewood @Niala @bob31 @Countryboyjvd1971

Strain is either lemon or amnesia haze was from cuttings in canna with clay balls just coco a and b in bucket on an indoor system on a 4 inch extraction fan with a carbon filter that is nice with air intake not on fan heat is 90 during day

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Did you see the thread I started for you bro, I expected you to put it in indoor or beginner, but if you see my thread for you then jump in blood

Not quite the details tickets asks for?are they Ebb&flow what is your ppm and ph? at 90f daytime temps your ladies would be drinking like crazy and likewise eating which if ph and tdds/ppm are too far out would burn them fast. Your coco looks drenched are you letting your roots breathe?
Are they hand watered and if so what concentration do you feed them with (ppm) and what ph do you adjust it to?

Coco is hydro even hand watered so ph and ppm are super important

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Yes better pics mate

This is my little bro and he’s new to the group ,heres what I know and maybe it will help, he has an indoor grow tent that’s 120 x 120 x 200 cm growroom, with a 600w hps with fan and filter kit, he started with 4 clones and is down to 3,I go on and on at him to come on here and ask for help but as I said he’s new, the plants erm @Lenny77 what have you got them in? As in soil bro, I’m pretty sure you said coco, but I use a coco humus and pearlite mix but I don’t really know what you have yours in, also I’m pretty sure you have them on an 18/6 light schedule, you need to get a fan in there to circulate the air, is there anything else you can add to help
@kabongster @Willd @Majiktoker @Oldstoner @SmoknGranny @bob31 @Countryboyjvd1971 @Niala

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@Lenny77 @daz49 Better pictures needed but I’d say nute burn and flush it but I can’t tell from the pictures. A picture in focus taken from about 12 centimeters away showing leaves in the best light he can get would help diagnose.
Also what are the temps at night?

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@Lenny77

What you have is; NUTRIENT BURN

Here is a pic of nutrient burn

NUTRIENT BURN@5

Nutrient Burn is one of the MOST common mistakes a new grower makes, reason for this is, because a newer grower will use a chemical nutrient most of the time and listen to the directions on the box. This is a NO NO! Depending on the age of the plant, size, strain and soil mixture you are using also has a factor. There is no set guideline when using nutrients, but I can give you a good example to start out with so you will not burn your plants. It’s always good to start out light, rather than feed heavy. Remember you can always add more later, but can not take out when you added to much. Chemical and Organic nutrients differ. Chemical nutrients are more readily available and can burn way easier than organics can. Organics are easier for a newer grower to use, most of the time, and lessen your chances of burning your plants.
I recommend not using more than ½ teaspoon of chemical nutrients per gallon of water. Unless the plants are very big 5 feet+, then it’s safe to use 1 teaspoon per gallon of water. When your plants first emerge you want to wait at least 2 weeks before feeding your plants, unless your plants are in a soiless mixture, like pro mix. The cotyledons (its first set of round looking leaves) are what give the plant its food until they get the first 2 or 3 sets of leaves. If your plants are in a soiless mixture and are over the first week of age; you can feed a weak amount of nutrients, like ¼ teaspoon per gallon of water. Soiless mixtures are different from soil plants and soiless plants need to be fed more when using this mixture.

I also recommend not feeding more than 1 time a week if using ½ teaspoon per gallon of water for chemical nutrients. You can feed every other day,( this goes for chemical and organics) at very weak amounts, but doing this may contribute to over watering, and for that I do not recommend feeding more than once a week. Some people feed 2 times a week using like ¼ teaspoon per gallon of water… Use 1/4 strength for first feeding and then go up to 1/2 strength from the 2nd feeding when using chemical nutrients. It’s very easy to overdo it. When using organics, depending on which one you’re using, I recommend using 1 teaspoon per gallon of water. When the plant gets bigger you can work your way up to using more nutrients when the plants get bigger.

As for soil mixtures, there are a lot of different kinds of soil’s out there. Using a rich soil mixture is not recommended for seedlings. Seedlings that are under 2 weeks of age you do not want to start them in rich soil, using a seed starter mixture is one of the safer ways. Seed starter mixtures are weak in nutrients, so it will not burn the seedlings but will provide them enough to get past seedling stage, but the downside is you have to transplant into a better soil mixture after 2 weeks of age. If you decide to start with this mixture, do not put your seedlings into a big pot. Start them out with using a cup or a small pot.

Nutrient Burn causes leaf tips to appear yellow or burnt. They can also be brown and twisted and crispy looking. Depending on the severity it can show many different symptoms and shows on lower part of the plant when its young, at older stages it can move anywhere on the plant.

To fix the problem when you have Nutrient burn, you want to flush out the plants with lots of water.

Soil

Soil should be flushed with lots of water, Use 3 gallons of water per one gallon of soil. Flush very thoroughly, after plant recovers usually after a week, you can resume using nutrients after a week or a week 1/2. When you flush your soil, you flush everything out, a lot of nutrients go with it, including the soil nutrients.

Hydro

Change out the reservoir, flush out any lines and clean out the entire system and replace with plain water for the first hour, then start out with lower parts per million (PPM)
Its good to clean out your system every 2 weeks and replace with fresh water and nutrients. Some people change everything every week!

Ahh, nute burn! Stop this by not adding to much chemical/organic nutrients to your water,foliar feeding. DONT feed more than 1 time a week unless using weak amount, use 1/4 strength for first feeding and then go up to 1/2 strength from then on when using chemical nutrients. Its very easy to overdo it. Causes leaf tips to appear yellow or burnt. NEVER give nutrients to plants that are under 2 weeks of age, at this age the soil nutrients are enough to suppliment them untill 2 weeks of age or more depending on how good your soil is. Using ferts before 2 weeks will almost likley kill your plants.

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We will be able to help Lenny better when he fills out support ticket and provides clearer images.:slight_smile: Right? OK. See you all then,

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Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco?
Coco pro with clayballs
System type?hand watered
PH of runoff or solution in reservoir?have no ph tester
What is strength of nutrient mix?30 ml of a 30 ml b and 20 ml of rhizotonic in 10 litres of water

Indoor or Outdoor,
Light system, size?indoor

Temps; Day, Night - 90/95 day 80 -85 night

Humidity; Day, Night- 30 - 60
Ventilation system;

AC, Humidifier,- no
Co2- no

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problem #1 You need to know ph in Hydro Coco or soil it matters this is what determines the available nutrients for your plants

Problem #2 In these temps your plants are eating and drinking far faster than you would want and add to it low RH the plants leaves dry out faster than it can drink water. Couple this with know known ph/ppm you could easily be feeding them a toxic mix

Topic is merged brother

Happy growings :slight_smile:

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thanks bro ,i appreciate it ,this is my younger brother ,who i have got in to our group and better still back into growing ,he has grown before but i think we all do it a little different from the way he’s done it ,thats why i knew he would love the group if he gave it a chance ,thanks for merging them both buddy

in case anyone wanted an update on these ,these are some of the pictures my brother has taken



thanks for all your assistance
@cyberblast @Oldstoner @bob31 @DoomSack @Willd @Countryboyjvd1971 @Lenny77

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here’s some newer pictures

thanks for looking everyone and I’m keeping it updated with your pictures brother

@kabongster @bob31 @Lenny77 @Majiktoker @DoomSack @Countryboyjvd1971 @Oldstoner @cyberblast

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