Plant is drooping/ silver on leaves


#1

New leaves coming up are also drooping. At first I thought it was an over watering issue, however drainage is fine and the soil has dried out, it’s pretty dry right now, due for watering but I’m not sure what to do next. On the affected leaves there is also what looks like an even covering of something shiny and silver. Not trails or patterns or powdery white but just an even covering of shiny. I checked for a solution here first and didn’t find anything.
Strain is Bloody Skunk, Sweet Seeds. Other plants from same source are fine.
Soil is Emerald Triangle 420 mix + perlite
Been growing both indoor and outside.
No nutes as of yet.
What do you think?


#2

Looks a little dry @Countryboyjvd1971 I have tagged country boy he has helped me considerably


#3

There’s something going on with this plant. She does look dry, but it’s the leaves that concern me. I think you need a support ticket.

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Answer these simple questions the best you can.
If you do not know, or do not use something; Just say so = NA

Strain; Type, Bag seed, or NA

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco?

System type?

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir?

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS

Indoor or Outdoor

Light system, size?

Temps; Day, Night

Humidity; Day, Night

Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,

Co2; Yes, No

If you can, upload a picture of your plant. It helps the diagnosis, if needed.

Add anything else you feel would help us give you a most informed answer. Feel free to elaborate, but short, to the point questions and facts will help us help you

Thanks!


#4

@Joseph49 How old is this plant. It is clearly flowering but I only see about 6 or 7 nodes.

My plants are 70 days old and a bit larger but nothing like what you have in terms of flowering, and buds are what we are all after.

I get it @Joseph49 mine are photo-period, as I understand it the photo’s take longer to veg than the Auto’s.


#5

The plant is 7 weeks old from seed. Bloody Skunk, from Sweet Seeds. It’s already started flowering but these are autos you understand. In 3 gallon pots. The soil in this one has been drying out .The ph run off is where it should be, around 6.
Plants are outside with 5 hours direct sunlight, the rest is shade.
Temps are currently about 50 at night 70 in the day, with warmer days predicted soon.
Might be noted the other autos I’m growing under the exact same conditions appear to be flourishing. So.


#6

What are you using to get ph reading
6 is too low for soil
Min 6.3
Ph range for soil is 6.3-6.8
I suspect you have a lock out condition caused by the low ph @Joseph49
A digital meter is the best way to check ph also soil does look dry what is tour watering pattern
Also tou should buy a tds meter so you can determine when to start feeding her
So you may have a few issues here but ph is first thing you should correct being Autos you need to react quickly
You should water till you get about 20% run off and collect that test ph and ppm


#7

OK thanks I appreciate it.
My understanding of ph was wrong if it’s supposed to be mid 6 as you say. The water here comes out of the faucet at about 7.2, then maybe I’m lowering it too much. I’m using a digital ph device yes. Since it’s dried out I’m going to flush the plant with water and go from there.
Thanks!!


#8

Magnesium it needs Epsom salt two tea spoons to a gallon mine were doing same thing try it


#9

N toxicity by appearance the claw in laymen terms or Copper def which explains metallic look

both of which are indeed ph related


#10

Thank you @Donaldj I knew the answer was in here somewhere! The descriptions sound like it’s a copper deficiency. Which seems a bit obscure but shit happens. I wish I’d known before I watered it again, I watered with ph at 6.5 but no nutes so if it needs any I guess that will be next time.

@Caosred thanks. I think the problem is copper? Not sure and maybe a little Epsom salt wouldn’t hurt anyway?

PS. This plant is Bloody Skunk of the “red” family. Follow my grow journal if you’re in the mood, I’m doing a lot of red this summer. It’s called Adventures in Red.


#11

Metals are easily mixed up and most are linked Mag included so yes it wouldn’t hurt you need a good micro nutrient to provide copper iron mag zinc but all need you to have soil in a proper ph range to be absorbed 6.3-6.8 in soil :slight_smile:


#12

I find it hard to believe he is having a copper deficiency considering he is using a mix. Not disputing this and I am late to the topic. I just was curious.

Sunshine mix: What is the ingredients.

I agree that a micro nutrient would be great. I make my own and have offered it to growers to try. I advise you look for a Micro that does not contain Nitrogen. GH and AN (copy of GH) contain a lot of Nitrogen for a Micro. Just be award to find one with just trace elements. Zinc, Manganese, Magnesium, Copper, Boron, Molybdenum or Molybdate, and Iron. Usually you will have Magnesium and Iron in your standard base nutrient, but in the Greenhouse we our Mag is from 2 sources. Mag Sulphate (Epsom sal;ts), and Magnesium Chelate which is in the Micro xolution.

You can buy the separate chelates and store them forever if you want to jump in and make your own. In fact; You can buy just Copper chelate all by itself.

Lastly; Look up MItleider method. He sells a Micro for soil. You measure it out and add to top of soil and water in. About 15 bucks and problem solved

hope this helps. Thanks Guys, lw


#13

Sunshine Mix is a classic soil less promix’s cousin but not an amended soil I loved it for years since it had higher vermiculite than promix so acted less hydrophobic when new and dry. Peatmoss vermiculite perlite and bark with a low initial NPK charge.
My first thought was N tox due to the timing but the metalic glint pushed me towards copper and the fact I know the medium quite well but is a very rare def indeed


#14

Thanks DJ,

That is what I thought. Did not have time to look up Sunshiine Mix but, thought I remembered it was basically another Nursery mix. Now a possible copper def. seems possible. In that case; I recommend a full base nitrient system like Flower Power which is working excellent for me in Promix, and beat Botaqnicare, Foxfarm, and Dutchmaster in side by side trials :slight_smile:

p.s. Why aren’t you working? lol :slight_smile:


#15

Snowing out this morning and thunder storms this afternoon I would love to be at work if weather would co-operate lmao
Did manage to get more done on my drying cabinet hang a t5 in it so it could double as cloner when not in use get some of the housework rolling so misses is happier with my work truck in driveway. Little narrow thanks to snow banks and she gets nervous when I back in with trailer :wink:


#16

This is what I’ve been using for 2 years. I add perlite.




#17

It’s generally worked great, I harvested pounds with it last year.


#18

Thanks for the info hardcore grow specialist peoples!


#19

That looks good but, that is nothing like Promix which is a potting mix not a potting soil. Plenty of nutrients in that mix of yours. Funny how all of a sudden you can have an issue. I don’t think you would need a full Micro solution with that. Look for Copper Chelate if you believe it is a Copper issue. If you cannot find it, I can send you a small bag and you can try it 1 gallon at a time. In a gallon of Micro I only use 3/4 tsp. per…


#20

Wow thanks, that’s very generous of you.
So I’ve been using Tiger Bloom, not on this young plant yet, but in general. And I looked at the label and it does have copper in it. How about if I just give it the Fox Farm nutes I have on hand, with some suggested Epsom salt, which I also have on hand? I’m not adverse to buying something except that it seems to trigger this domino effect where solutions to problems are going to be purchases and that’s just capitalism run amok lol