Congrats , ow you get to start all over again, but this time it will be how much longer before their ready,lol.
Enjoy the grow
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Quite a bit longer this grow at least another month possibly 6 weeks . The new strains grow fairly tall and can have good yields if done correctly so now that I have some stash to last a grow I plan on slowing down and seeing just what I can accomplish with a proper grow. Going to jump the gun and try to get the next one started real soon
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Believe it or not, @Oldstoner, I’m okay with the waiting. I’m not on this journey to get “loopy on the whoopy weed”, as my Dad used to say, (though…it doesn’t really hurt), I’m trying to find the answers that modern medicine can’t give me. I went to the doctor’s again today; the last non narcotic pain pill in his arsenal didn’t do anything to help me with the severe pain that I’m always in, and I really wanted it to work! The next step is morphine…and that’s a death sentence for me. I’ve taken so much Oxy, that he and my neurosurgeon have prescribed, it doesn’t work that great any more because I refuse to take more than 10mg a day. This is my last chance to be a functioning, contributing, healthy human being because chronic pain can drive you literally crazy. I can’t get a MMJ card because of reasons I can’t and won’t discuss. Recreational facilities won’t be opening for another year and I can’t wait that long. There’s no way I’m going to a dealer (no idea what’s in that crap anyway) and I don’t want to do anything illegal because that’s not what I’m about; legal recreational is going into effect here in 10 days. This has to work and I’m so thankful that I’ve found you guys to make sure I don’t screw it up. So, yeah…I can wait. Besides, I’m excited to watch it grow! I didn’t realize that it’s actually a very nice looking plant, as plants go.
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Well then @super_newby have you ever come to the right place 90 % of the people on here are broken and grow out of need for meds for one reason or another we are kind of like the island of misfit toy’s on Rudolph there is something wrong with all of us in one way or another . I started smoking again after years of opioids over a broken back in 99 then had some bad experiences with a Doctor and my neighbor asked me why I didn’t just smoke ? So he got me some and long story short here we are growing for pain relief. Good luck
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You confirmed my suspicions @Oldstoner; from lurking in the forums, before I signed in, I didn’t read any of the frat boy types looking to get wasted for lack of anything better to do, it’s more like a bunch of people sitting around a camp fire talking on a warm summer evening, the older kids helping the younger kids along…I like it here! I’ve been using the looking glass search feature and I’m noticing how supportive and encouraging most every one is in helping the newbies grow a quality crop, I really admire it. I’ll start my journal tomorrow. Thanks again for everything, this broken body needs some sleep!
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@super_newby,I know your pain, 2 years ago I went to morphine and I’m still In the same pain 24/7 I only get 1.5 hours sleep and still up to a year away from my first of 5 ops, so I’m hoping this grow their will be some relief.
Happy growing
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Adjustable base temperpedic ergo is an alternative , with plates and titanium screws it helps me function just to tie my shoes , the fruits help me manage my day .
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I knock myself out with sleeping pills every night just to make sure I don’t wake up through the night; it’s working for now but I don’t want to make a habit out of it. Looks like I did come to the right place! 
I was looking into those but I didn’t know anyone that had one. I currently sleep on a 4 inch memory foam mattress pad with plywood under it because my spouse loves the bed as it is but we’re looking! I’m hoping the fruits help me out too, we’ll have to see!
I have an adjustable base also and more often then not it the only reason I can get up and move the next day
Well worth the cost as far as I concerned 
Meds just keep me moving once up 
Enjoy the grow all
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@super_newby I hate inform you but please try to break that pattern with the sleep aids , they have high risk factors to causing dementia seriously , but I have a regular king size temperpedic and the bed is very comfortable so I thought until I had surgery on my neck C2,C3,C4 fused with titanium and 6 screws besides I suffer with sleep apnea . So the only way to sleep comfortable with the face mask is unruliness uncomfortable for my neck do I suffer from insomnia now so I’m up all night after work due to the pain if I was to rest and go to sleep , which now I think is affecting my heart but I have no receive any doctors reports back since my last visit . Pain pills is becoming my daily diet , but I’m getting ready to purchase the adjustable base temperpedic ergo cause of the reviews I’ve been reading is hope that should allow comfort . I’m not in the best position to go out and throw money at a new bed just cause , but I just went to funeral of my late supervisor last Wednesday who died in his sleep from a massive heart attack at the age of 34 . What I’m trying to say Sir is your health is your wealth , and if it’s not wealth in money but wealth in life . I know it’s hard and not easy for everyone , but you have to find a better way to to get the desire comfort to rest properly , rest is essential for active brain functions , so research your options due to your problems in health Sir , to figure out which mountain you have to climb first . I’ll be praying for you as I do for us all , and if I can help , advise , are give you any information to get thru your grow , I’ll do my best from what I’ve learned , read , are experience , but please try to break that pattern of sleep aids before it do more harm than good to your health …God is Able !!!
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Thank you @yoshi, I’m hoping to be on the path to pull myself out of this pit. I’ve been dealing with my situation for about 1.5 years and in the last few months, I’ve been able to see through the fog that the doctor’s have been putting around me; they seem like decent people so I have to give them the benefit of the doubt in that they believe that they’re doing the best for me. However, I’m getting worse and traditional medicine is failing me. The pain is getting worse and an appointment with a specialist confirmed that I’m developing muscular atrophy and it’s pretty hard to come back from that so that’s when I began searching. MJ legalization in our state was almost a sign from above, because I hadn’t given it a second thought until then because I’ve never been one to do illegal things; once I started researching CBD’s and their medical applications, without dependency or detrimental side effects, it was like a light went off. The WW seeds I just received are my practice seeds because I’ve already ordered high CBD strain seeds and hopefully will know what I’m doing by the time they arrive. It’s the first time I’ve felt hopeful in a long time.
As for the sleeping, yeah…pills aren’t the best, but for me it’s better than not sleeping and not sleeping only makes this whole situation worse for me and my family. We’re going to be going after a new bed when the holidays are over to see if there are any sales to snag, the tax returns should be coming shortly after; I currently can’t afford to drop a couple of grand on a new bed either but it will come eventually. My first goal is to get rid of most, or all, of the many prescription pill bottles that have been accumulating on my bathroom counter over the last year and a half, most of them don’t work very much anyway.
Thank you for your kind words and support, I’m very thankful to have found this place!
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Kick the pills nothing good comes from it
I was on OxyContin for a while for my lower back and neck pain given to me by a top rated pain management doctor and all it did was make me feel like a junky happens to fast so the quicker you loose them the better
Hope it happens soon than later for you
And as far as the $ is concerned it was the best $ spent highly recommended an adjustable base you won’t be sorry you did 
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I know my friend it’s not easy trust me , and these doctors are always wanting to try some new scientific pharmaceutical pill but never discuss the side affects . Most times them pills make it more harder than anything else , but they treat you like you don’t feel the pain you explain to them when you tell them is what bother me the most . My doctor had me on prescription Prevacid for acid reflux right 30 mg a day , but over the course of consumption , the Prevacid has a vital long term affect on your kidneys and causes heart trouble in the artery linings and extreme muscle cramps right , now when I told her this , she look me right in my face and told me I was not having muscle cramps that extreme , it probably was from me being ah lil stress or depressed , I walked out , quit taking the Prevacid and I have not had a muscle cramp to wake me up out of what lil sleep I do get no more and that’s been about 4-5 weeks now , but if you look at the symbol that represents hospitals , you know the cross with the snake around it …hmmmm I don’t trust them , they can only make a theological opinionated guess from what they studied , not what they know cause the blood speaks . But don’t be to concern on growing , just make sure you have everything you need to grow before you start , fans , ph pen , TDS pen , oscalating fan , pots with good drain holes , good organic soil , Happy frog is better to start your seedlings and ocean forest is great for vegging and flowering . Many start with just ocean forest which can work great if you do t saturate your soil , but you need good lighting , inline CFM fan and scrubber , good nutrients , Ph up and Ph down , Calmag or non sulfur molassess if you used a soilless medium like coco coir , and start now reading the grow bible , watch YouTube videos , read the grow bible again , watch more videos , read up on agriculture on how to grow tomatoes and cactus they are C4 plants like cannabis I believe , than write you a grow journal schedule , keep it simple as possible to create a stable environment , once you have everything ready , get it setup and run lights , fans , and make sure you can control and keep temperatures in right range , humidity in the right range , and after your dry run with all your equipment , than germ a couple seeds and let them grow , don’t try to rush them , be patient , and remember less is more when it comes to nutrients especially fox farm liquid fertilizers , they are very concentrated when used in fox farm soil . But I have a beginners guide journal on here I’ve been writing to help guys like you get started from start to finish , I’ll tagged you in it so you can read through it and get some useful information getting started .
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I felt the same way, @Countryboyjvd1971…like a junky, that’s why I cut myself off at 10mg a day because I was just a thoughtless zombie stumbling around the house and my brain was numb. I hate it. The worst part was that I’d take it for a couple of sequential days and the effect would be diminishing so the knee jerk reaction was to take more but I fought it and didn’t take it for a couple of days. The bed is at the top of the list, it won’t be much longer…I just hope it works as well for me too.
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My wake up call was last month, when I tried one of the “new” meds, but it interacted with one of my old meds…I was pissing blood about 8 hours later. Called the doc, he said stop because kidney infections is a side effect, asked if I wanted more meds for that, politely declined and proceeded to pound cranberry juice and probiotics, got rid of it in a couple of days. So, let the journey begin!!!
Believe it or not I have everything that you listed, except for the Happy Frog (I do have the Fox Farm Ocean Forest); I’ve been reading and watching videos stating that Ocean Forest can be used from beginning to end, should I track some down before I start to germinate my seeds? I’ve got the water Ph tester (with up and down), the Ph soil tester, and the PPM tester for when I do the flushes. It’s cold here so I have a small space heater in the tent attached to a reptile thermometer that keeps the temp steady at 75ish and a timer on the lights
I’ve been growing tomatoes very successfully for the last 8 years but it was outside (the calmag was my secret to success) so I’m okay there. I’ve had my grow tent up for the last 2 weeks and have been able to maintain temp, Ph, humidity and light cycles (I’ve been nursing a house plant that I thought had burned up last summer but showed a green bud when the temps outside cooled off). For nutes I have liquid seaweed (0.0.1), seaweed and fish juice (5.1.1) and Big Bud. Grow tent is 3’ x 3’ x 6" and I have a 300w LED system.
I read the ILGM grow bible a couple of times, I’ve watched about every video on YouTube that looked applicable (I even stumbled upon some videos as to how to make bubble hash, I had no idea!) and I’ve been trolling the forums here like crazy…am I missing anything?
Thank you for going on this journey with me, I really appreciate it!!!
Sounds like you have a handle on things
And yeah it’s to easy to try to counter by taking more of them 
The base should do wonder I sleep most nights in a zero gravity position to relieve my lower back pain I now get more than a hour or too of sleep in a row and most nights am able to sleep for 4/6 with out waking since I purchased the base
We got a split base so my wife can be flat while I’m in what ever position I need to be in . Just one more thing for you to consider lol as if you don’t have enough on your mind 
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@yoshi
Hey bud you really need to put paragraphs in bud. Way too hard to read without breaks buddy.
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He threw a lot of information at me, I can’t really blame him
@yoshi ,I am also awaiting surgery on c2,3,&4 plus L3,4,5 & S1,along with both shoulders need reconstruction, right has had two already,but now needs a 3rd,and on top of that I’m fighting Cancer for 3rd time,all the pills they have me on have stuffed my heart as now I go into AF ,highest its been is 235 bpm,for over two hours.I’ve learned to adjust to only 1.5 hours sleep,so I really want this grow to help pain wise.
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