Nutrient lockout can't get ph to go down. Help

Continuing the discussion from Leafs turning white from inside, not enough expierience to identify deficiency:

So I am experiencing what I believe to be nutrient lockout. Tell me if I’m wrong but when I test to run off pH we test out about 7.5 to 8 so it’s really high but I try to bring it down with pH water and I’ve ran 25 gallons of water through each plant of here and I’ve only got it down a little bit. Maybe





7:00? Do I just keep flushing it with more and more water until it gets down to what I’m filling it with? Or am I doing something wrong or should I try another tactic? I’m really confused here and would like your assistance if you be so kind

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Are these in containers? Because that doesn’t look like nute burn or a lockout.

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Almost looks like a chemical burn to me?

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Yes in 30 gal pots. What are you thinking it I they were looking so good until right about the time they started to change from veg to bloom I would appreciate any thoughts thanks

Chemical burn from like something sprayed on them here are a few more photos I just want to fix it so bad not sure what exactly I need to do all I’ve done is try to flush them and bring down ph





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Frankly I’m only seeing fan leaves dying off. That is normal to occur in flower. The scruffy edges of leaves in the one pick do look like something sprayed on them. Maybe some liquid during daylight hours?

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Those lower leaves look normal and wouldn’t concern me, it’s the new growth in your second picture that had me most concerned.

Lower canopy leaves will die off as the plant no longer needs them.

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What was the run off PPMs :love_you_gesture:

Well I’m not quite sure my meter is calibrated correctly at the time it read 14 something I got some calibration solution in the mail just today. I will be checking them again here a little later this afternoon. But anyhow I just went with it so I figured it had plenty of nuts in the soil so I have refrained from feeding them anymore until I corrected the pH and got a better reading from a for certain calibrated meter but the pH was like 8 got it down to 7:00 or right below until I ran out of solution they look better than what they did. I know there’s something going on here. It’s hard to see what I’m seeing but they just look toasted. You know all the bud sites were toasted just like it’s been in the oven or something but it’s starting to look better and this happens like a week before flower You know I just all change and I just kind of freaked this is only about my fifth row seems to be something different every time. Issues that arise. Anyways don’t want to just grow bud. I want to grow outstanding cream of the crop bud however, this is my first outdoor experience.

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You can try some lemon juice in the water that should bring down the ph in ur soil this wont hurt ur plant at all i would only mix two teaspoons of lemon juice in five ltrs of water run that thru and then run clean fresh ph water back through it after doing to lemon juice and then check ur run off

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Was that 14 an EC of 1.4? :love_you_gesture:

I think it was 1400 and something. Only thing off is that pH if so. Welcome to the community @OpJbud !!! Great growers here to do what they can to help you along!

I hate to lay a whole support ticket, so here’s a basic for outdoors…

  1. Plant strain, type and age (Photo? Auto?)
  2. Water source and pH (Tap? Distilled? Rain?)
  3. Nutrients and pH after mixing
  4. Container size and type (Fabric? Plastic?)
  5. Medium used (Soil? Organic, living soil?)
  6. Watering/feeding schedule
  7. Avg temps/rh

This is was shorter than the normal ticket so I probably missed a couple questions, but this should help us get you lined out a little better.

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What nutes are you feeding and how often are you watering

My guess is it just needs a serious flush. Sometimes that happens I can have a dozen. Same seed , same soil , and same chemical mix ( i use a 25 gallon drip tank ) and still theres always 1 0r 2 that get stessed , or locked out . Natural selections i guess , but i usually flush 10 gallons or so of ph neutral water and back on track.

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Hey sorry I’ve been dealing with things but thank you for all the response appreciate it I ended up just doing a serious flush one day and I got it down to 6.3 I’m back to feeding it nutrients and all three are looking very nice It actually surprised me how well they’ve come out of that funk again I just want to thank everyone who chimed in and gave me advice I took all that to heart and tried to implement it into my situation the best I could appreciate you all and I’m sure this will not be the last time I have problems or questions that need solutions I just hope I can in return do the same for another thank you I will post some photos of the healthy version of these plants once I get some I’m just excited to see them start butting up we’ve had a lot of stormy weather here it’s pretty serious winds but they’ve held up so far so good quick question though is there anything that I should not be spraying on the plants once they start flowering like peroxide or neem oil or like peppermint oil or anything like that or should I stop using things like that once they bud or is it still okay to use things like these throughout its whole life just something that I’ve been wondering and not quite sure the answer to. This place is fantastic I’m super glad I found ILGM pretty much been my go-to place for seeds and knowledge and everyone is friendly and enthusiastic to help which is awesome

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Im goung thru the same thing …so what did you do to get it back on track im stressed out tryinv to figure out what to do here




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What is pH neutral water? Is that like distilled water?

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Distilled water would be consider neutral, mainly any water source with a PH of 7.0 :love_you_gesture:

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I have a dehumidifier that has a very faint green glow that emits from it. I need to use it during lights out in my tent. Will it hurt my plants that are in flower?

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I wouldn’t think so, can you put a piece of tape over it :love_you_gesture: