New to indoor Cultivating. What deficiency is this? Please help

A lot of great Topics for deficiencies. I have seen a lot of great answers as to what deficiencies my plants could be having but I feel more comfortable getting an answer from someone more knowledgeable to this topic than me.

3 1/2 weeks from seedling
Happy Frog Soil
400w vivosun vs4000 LED 80% 34" from canopy
Vivosun 4x4 Grow Tent 48"x48"x80"
75-78 Fahrenheit
48% humidity
bottled spring water for watering
Still waiting on Bergman’s complete nutrient kit. Arrives January 19th

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Hmmm there seems to be a few issues here.

  1. I never (at least not anymore) put two plants in one pot. One is bound to be stronger and limit the growth of the other. If you do, ur gonna want a bigger pot.

  2. Some of the leaves look ‘torn’ or ripped. Did you perhaps heavy hand them? Possible pests? Thats a worry Id work over IMMEDIATELY.

  3. The twisty funny looking curl to leaves looks similar to what you see when pH is outta wack. Happy Frog out the bag with just bottled spring water should not be outta range at all. I mean bad batches of soil happen… it could also be something funky in the rootzone going on… maybe they dont like living together already?

  4. The leaves ‘deficiency’ themselves… the leaves pointed towards the bottom of the screen on both plants (with the yellow edges) both look like either a P deficiency (should NEVER happen this soon, so that means pH lockout) or pretty bad N toxicity (which means you may have tried to sneak the plants an early feed).

How often are you watering?

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Welcome to the community @FearsomeTea

Like @PurpNGold74 is a lot of issues there two plants is one pot that so far look like 5gl pot is don’t look good

And pH problems is other issue

Probably light distance or dimmer to high for veg. Stage

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True. Or a poorly aimed fan… there’s a few things it could be…

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Thank you for the reply. As this is the first time growing indoor I did have the thought of putting 2 plants in a 5gl could end up a problem. The reason is The seeds are from a local dispensary and are not autoflower or femanized so I had the thought of putting 2 plants into each of the five 5gl buckets that way once they show gender I could just pull the males and let the females do their thing. I can definitely get more buckets now knowing that 1 plant per 5gl bucket is already enough so thank you for that insight.

As you can tell you can definitely see a rip/tear at the bottom right leaf that was in fact my fault but. I dont think it would be a pest thing but i will keep that in mind for sure.

As far as ph. I have not check yet but my ph tester arrives in two days. before transplanting these two plants together, they where each in a normal sized dixie cup as had already started to look like this so i transferred them together in a bigger pot with more soil but that didn’t help. I do want to Note that i do have 5 more plants growing in the same tent but are not nearly as stress looking as these 2 and i’d also like to note that the other plants are two plants together in one pot as well and they seem to be thriving fine. I will indeed post the others as well so you7 can see it all at once and not just those 2 plants ive shown.

I have not fed early. I’m still waiting on the bergmans fertalizer kit to arrive. The only nutrients all of my plants have had is what’s in the soil and the bottles spring water. Notice in the picture you can tell i had just watered. Before these pictures today I haven’t watered in 3 days. within those 3 days from watering the soil under the top soil was still fairly moist and dark.

Now that i have gotten some replies i will take a photo of the full setup. not all the plants look like this.

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Thanks for the reply. I’ll make sure to get more buckets for each plant for now on. My ph tester arrives in a couple of days. I’ll make sure to let you all know what the tests say.

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Here are the rest of them. The two i showed first seems to be the worst. which are the bottom left

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Welcome to the Neighborhood. Lots of good information here.

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Thanks Fam! :slightly_smiling_face: ILGM Definitely is my go to now! Thank you for the friendly welcome!

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@FearsomeTea don’t worry is a lot of pro her can help you, we all started and we all make some mistake

Went you pH meter arrived you pH in soil should be 5.8 to 6.5

How many hour of light you used ?
And what is the light % that you had ?

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After searching sites I realized this was the best place for friendly advice for sure!. I’ll make sure to post my ph level in a couple days. I’m intrigued to see. Took around 3-4 days to germinate all seeds and since germinated, I then put the germinated seeds into the soil and since then the light has been on for 18 hours and the light off for 6 hours also the light % has been on 80% out of 100% the light has a 20-40-60-80-100 setting and it is hanging 34 Inches from the top leaves of the plants.

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Sounds like you have everything in pretty good order man. Maybe just 2 finicky ladies! The rest certainly look good!

And its not impossible to grow 2 in a pot, just kinda invites issues you dont want to have. By all means go ahead with the plan. If everything works out, ull learn a lesson and have 9 nice females that all yield lovely. If it doesnt? Ull still learn a lesson lol. Im here either way.

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Right on! Thank you so much for the great advice I’ll update frequently. I’m pretty patient but can be thrown in a panic quickly :rofl:

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UPDATE: Got my Ph tester and a soil Tester as well as my bergmans fertalizer kit. ph is Between 6.1 - 6.3 I’ve come down to the conclusion That cal-mag is needed, it arrives tomorrow.

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This is… not the conclusion id draw :rofl:.

Just wanted to update after a month and a half later. Here are photos of them now.


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They seem to be thriving. Job well done

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Thank you! I transplanted them in more soil, Bought a new soil ph tester, Dimmed led lighting to 40% instead of 80%, Went lighter on the nutes as well as adding some cal mag to each feeding and I have the circulating fan facing at the wall instead of circulating at them. All this seemed to help so thank you for all the tips and tricks Purp.

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UPDATE: Here are photos after 1 1/2 weeks into flowering


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I did dim the light down during veg and that seemed to make them do a little better during that stage so thank you for that tip. I still have a 5 gallon pot with 2 girls in them and they are actually doing the best out of them all.

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