My Move to Landrace

I’m not actually sure I’m creating a true journal, but I wasn’t able to complete the setup do to ILGM not offering this strain. So forgive me if I screwed all this up!

Set up:
Vegging is in a 3x3, out in the garage with a Mars Hydro TS1000
Flowering is in a 4x4, inside with a HLG 600 Rspec
Always Coco Coir and Perlite
Jack’s 321 3.6A 2.4B 1.2 Epsom Salt, seedlings on CloneX (amazing stuff)
5gal Pots
ACInfinity 6inch with controller and various budget fans

I’m currently finishing up some ILGM SSH and Blue Dream. The problem I’m having is that these new fancy strains are just too strong for me and I’m trying to find the old school feeling I got back in the day. Maybe my search will be fruitless, but trying is just as fun.

I bought some Apple Betty from Spain and popped those. I also had 1 Zkittlle I received as a freebee and will be working on them along side this Landrace. After they are all finished, nothing but Landrace going forward.

So the real prize is Afghan 90 Heirloom. They also sent me Kumaoni Himalayan and an Afghan mix that could containing Balkh, Badakshan, Mazar-i-Sharif and Kunduz.

I will keep things short, mostly pictures throughout the grow. I’m relearning how to grow and learning all the new information available these days. I grew back in 94’ and all we really had was word of mouth and 3 part GH. But luckily, I’m pretty good with plants and underwater gardening; so a lot of todays understandings make sense.

So, here’s what I’m finishing up and the start of Apple Betties, Zkittle and Afghan. If you have advice, let me hear it. If you have a question, I will answer it to the best of my knowledge.



Fingers crossed this lands in the right spot!

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Looks great!

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Harlequin is my choice for old 1970s type of weed.
Not nearly as strong but a nice mellow buzz. I really like it.
I have other strains like Northern Lights, Blue Dream and Granddaddy Purple and can take one small hit and I’m done.

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That’s exactly my problem. I will look forward to trying your suggestion.

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Alright, the Apple Betty and Zkittle are transplanted and all went a bit deficient. I raised to 520ppm and I see an improvement. The seedlings are at 440ppm and still look deficient and may bump them a bit more tomorrow. Hungry ladies they are.

I’m going to try 3 gallon pots this go. I already water twice a day so it makes sense. I also like to keep my plants smaller.

I topped 2 and fimmed one just to see if there’s a difference.

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@poly
What’s a good source for Landrace Durban Poison if such a place exists?

Looks like The Landrace Team* and Khalifa Genetics have options. A quick look on seedfinder shows a couple more likely candidates from Afropips and Cannbiogen if you can find a seed bank with those in stock. Outlet UK (I’ve used them and they’re fine) has the latter and the Canadian Hemp Company (who I have no experience with) has the former.

Other things to consider when trying to evaluate authenticity:

  • Check the THC%; even grown seedless landraces rarely exceed ~15%
  • Check the veg & flower times. Varieties match their local growing season; e.g. there ain’t no 12 week finishing Jamaicans or 18 week Afghans
  • Check out old images taken on site; doesn’t necessarily have to be the exact variety you’re interested in but you’ll get a flavor for what the old school is supposed to look like

One note when growing tropical/subtropical varieties is to prepare for stretch like you’ve never seen. Pretty much as soon as you’re out of the seedling stage is the time to flip to 12/12 (remember days in these regions are ~12/12 year round). After that you have at least 6-8 weeks until preflower; usually stretching the whole time.

* might also look at their Drakensberg & Swaziland which are neighbors of Durban.

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Awesome, thank you!

Well, I danced with the Devil and lost. Don’t even ask how I caught it so early. But anyone who says not to spend time with your plants is a fool.

I played around with running humidity between 50-60% while flowering. I definitely saw benefits, but the potential “burn” wasn’t worth it. I have immediately dropped humidity below 50%. Running at about 45% going forward.

I removed the top portion of the cola and can say, I’m ready for winter conditions.

Do you see it?

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Alright, the Afghan 90 has been added to the flower tent. 3 topped and 2 untouched.

The Apple Betty’s are a bit yellow. I’m thinking they are hungry and so I moved to the Jack’s recommended numbers (downloaded schedule) 3.79A, 2.52B and .99ES. They looked a bit better but seem to have returned to a bit yellow all over. The ppm is about 980, I’m thinking I should push higher but I’m not sure if I should use the 3.6, 2.4, 1.2 ratio or the recommended ratio.

I will be cautious and mix 3.6, 2.4, 1.2 at 11 gallons in 10 gallons and see what ppm I get.

Fingers crossed on getting a good ratio of females.


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Well, I have flowered too late once again. Going forward, I will begin flowering at 6 inches, no higher.

Plants are responding well and after talking to JR Peter’s, my TDS meters are all inaccurate. I will be looking for a new one. I’m going to raise another 100ppm and shoot for 1350ppm. These things are hungry!

Also, after speaking to JR Peter’s, I will be following the 3.79, 2.52 and .99 schedule.

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I received my new TDS meter, and after calibration, those cheap meters were not too far off. Interesting for sure. That said, I’m right at 1200ppm and the plants are responding well. I will keep pushing higher out of curiosity.

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Well, the Apple Betty continue to stretch. Will it ever stop, jeez?

Knowing what I know now; I would only have 2 plants of it for this 4x4 tent with a SCROG net. I’ll have to bend them or I may just chop the tallest colas off and take the loss.

No sign of sex from the Afghan and now I’m hoping only 1 is female.



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I would supercrop over chop. They have plenty time to recover.

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That’s pinch and bend, correct?

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Yes it is. Kinda roll between fingers with a squeeze. Feel a pop. Bend gently where want. Slap a piece of electrical tape around bend. Let it go.

I’ll give it a go.

Say, in these spots?

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Yeppers.

Thank you sir.

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Np at all. I have to do it almost every sativa. They will turn back up in a few days.

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