@MattyBear
Is there any way I can get permissions granted so I can edit my posts? I’d like to keep this updated in the first post rather than updates getting lost in the posts.
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I’m not sure there’s a setting I can just push a button for to allow you to edit. I could be wrong tho
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Yeah… if I remember right it comes down to permissions for groups/rank and their abilities. Not individual basis, so essentially rank determines ability. Don’t think it can happen unless I get into another group. Dang…
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For this forum is going to be an IT guy setting, not the moderators unfortunately.
Disclaimer: I’m not affiliated with the forum other than being a user, but i am a retired IT guy that has dealt with forums before.
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THANK YOU @kaptain3d for sharing this with me!!! Wow Low! I’m super impressed by this !!! It’s been a journey learning and growing! I’m currently using the budgrower lights
LIGHT UNIT SPECS
- Brand: The Bud Grower
- Manufactured by: Vivosun
- High Efficiency Grow Light!
- Two Units: Only 120W (this generates the equivalent of a traditional 600W light unit)
- Maximum PAR output at various distances, supporting efficient photosynthesis.
- Equipped with Samsung LM301 Diodes.
- Requires 50% less energy than other light units on average.
- Dimmer switch to control light intensity, allowing your plants to receive more energy without burning them.
- Perfect for 24″x24″ veg and bloom footprints.
- Full-spectrum output; ideal for all stages of growth.
- 30% higher yield compared to older LED lights.
The Old Man and I are looking into the upgrading our lights for the 4x4 tent we have. We liked the HLG SCORPION DIABLO X and also the KIND LED X750 Targeted Full Spectrum LED Grow Light.
Thanks for the info, truly informative and incrediby organized!
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I’m glad you found the thread useful. It’s a basic guide 
Cannot go wrong with either one of those suppliers!
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Thanks Grow Brother!
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Any time! 
have fun shopping! I always get stuck on endless YouTube reviews when I’m in the market for a new light. Lol
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same here! We’ve spent the entire day to YouTube reviews!
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How have I completely missed this thread??? Such good info. Thanks @Low you rock for this!!!
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Glad you found it helpful 
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This is the holy grail for lightening!! You da man, man. Thank you very much Low!!
Much luv bro-
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I’m happy you found it helpful.
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Low indecently purchased the G8600 Spider Farmer-CO2 light. What do you mean by…” recomendable c02 for full power or can dim?
His is a huge upgrade for me, this will be my second indoor grow and I’m trying to stay ahead of the game here brotha.
Thanks again-
JD
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Ok so that light uses some serious wattage and pumps out some really high numbers. Running it at manufacturer recommended heights at 100% will burn the plants without cO2.
When running that high of a wattage through a calculator it can exaggerate the coverage.
I am running the g8600 next to the mars hydro fce8000. These lights do a great job for being on the “budget” side. Each one is covering around 4.5x4.5. In this space with these 2 lights we only made it to about 60% power.
The build quality of the spider farmer is superior to the mars. You made a good choice!
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And it’s all that’s to you LOW!! Thank you very much 
Considering i am not running CO2, you’re saying never run it above 60% in flower? I haven’t gotten the light yet, so sorry fir the stupid questions.
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There are no stupid questions I highly suggest a PAR meter. The bigger the fixture the more i recommend them. I said 60% because I haven’t had to go above that to get my numbers. Height of the lights above canopy will dictate your power levels. Don’t focus on wattage focus on coverage and ppfd.
I kinda go by these numbers…
Flower 600-1000 I try to stay around preferably 800 at the minimum, but see good ok results as low as 500.
Veg 300-600
The flatter the canopy the better the light distribution the better the yield. That said the pictures I shared of the garden are all over the place and forming nice dense buds.
Here are some meters
DLI
A lot of growers utilize dli while learning their lights and plants
Here is a calculator to convert ppfd/umol into dli
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Thanks @Low just read this thread good info, I do have 3x3 with a spiderfarmer G3000, have it sold after this grow and getting the G5000, reading this just help confirm my thoughts and purchase 
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Hey @Bentstick im glad you found it useful! Some of the spider farmers have changed sizes since I’ve posted this so pay attention to the fixture dimensions.
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