Lost in Flowering Stage....please advise - From Moringa


#1

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@bob31 Been growing this outside for a long time. So much rain this summer. Plant has never had a chance to dry out due to rain. With call approaching, I am beginning to worry about light and temperature.

Someone replied confirming the Flowering Stage. Pretty much all natural. Was given to me by a neighbor as a seedling. Potted in soil and placed carefully outdoors. Rain almost daily. My main question is what now? She looks healthy to me. What should I expect next? I plan to bring her into my home. Sharing a few pics from the early stages. She was never bulky as I’ve seen in other photos. Pretty thin with extremely slow growth. Smells wonderful.


Plan to read your literature and prepare myself the next time around but if there is any hope for this last let me know. What should I keep in eye out for in the coming days weeks?


#2

@Moringa

Lets get some more info please answer all questions!

Also lets have some more pics of your plant as it is currently.

COPY/PASTE: This “Support Ticket” into your forum post.
Answer these simple questions the best you can.
If you do not know, or do not use something; Just say so = NA

Strain; Type, Bag seed, ILGM… name of strain:

How many plants:

Age from Sprout and Flower:

Soil in pots, Hydroponic, or Coco / Brand and type of Soil & Size of Pots:

How often do you water and how do you determine when to do so?

PH of water and runoff or solution in reservoir:

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS:

Indoor or Outdoor:

Light system, size and height from plants:

Temps; Day, Night:

Humidity; Day, Night:

Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size:

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier:

Co2; Yes, No:

Add anything else you feel would help us give you a most informed answer. Feel free to elaborate, but short, to the point questions and facts will help us help you

Also here is a Deficiencies & Excesses Chart to help you identify what is wrong with your plants

Nutrient_Chart2


#3

A ton of I dont knows but its the homest truth. The seedling was given to me and I planted it in last year’s tomato pot soil. I am 100% sure soil was fertilized with veggie nutrients and possible plant boost last year for tomatos. Additional current photos attached.

Strain (type, bag seed): I don’t know

Soil in pots, hydroponic, or coco?: soil in pots/ manure soil

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir?: I dont know

What is strength of nutrient mix? EC, or TDS: I don’t know

Indoor or outdoor: outdoor

Light system, size?: outdoor

Temps day, night: temps starting of 80-101, recently 60-80

Humidity day, night: outdoor

Ventilation system (yes/no, size): no

AC, humidifier, de-humidifier?: outdoor

Co2 (yes/no): no?


#4

ok @Moringa

how long has it had those white hairs coming out from around the top?

EDIT HOLD ON THE REST OF THIS

How big is that pot? It looks way too small.

To grow outside it needs to be about 5 gallons. I would recommend you buy some generic potting soil with perlite. Sometimes you can buy it at the dollar stores. But it needs a bigger pot like the size of a home depot 5 gallon bucket. You can bury some of the stem as well.

If you use a hard sided pot it will need lots of holes to allow for air exchange and good drainage.

Do not buy miracle grow or anything like that.

if you have good color vision go to the local pet store and buy a ph test kit with pH up and down like you would use for an aquarium. Otherwise they sell ph tester and ph up and down for about $30 on amazon. let me know if you need a link.

You said outdoors, but it looks like those pics are indoors?


#5

White hairs have been present for at least 3 weeks.
The pots measurements are larger than a five gallon home depot orange bucket.
Will purchase the perlite and follow your advice regarding plating the stem deeper in the soil. Will work on drainage by adding additional holes. The plant has been moved inside due to the recent dip in temperature change. Will search for oh tester this evening. Thank you very much.


#6

Actually I wouldn’t advise transplanting.Your MJ Plant is in flower and transplanting would be too much of a shock. I’m sorry I wasn’t sure when I looked at those pics and i wanted confirmation from you first!

Sometimes it’s hard to tell the size of the plants and pots without something close by to scale them.

It is important to pH your water and some nutrients might be good for her too. @Moringa

You may need to support your plant with a stake and some ties so than as the buds build it doesn’t bend over and break the stem. Are you in the US? Asking so that I know what to recommend.


#7

Ok great. Again thanks and I will study before starting a new adplanture. Yes US -East Coast. Again, I will monitor ph and purchase stakes. Just one more questions…what nutrients at this stage?

Thanks a bunch


#8

GH makes a decent product that is budget friendly. I will post an Amazon link for you but they sell them in grow shops too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017H73708/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_22?tag=greenrel-20

You would follow this nutrient schedule

If you buy locally at a grow shop or something I wouldn’t spend a lot of money on nutrients unless you plan to continue growing beyond this plant? If so then it can be used for a couple of grows!

There are other nutrients as well, but these seem to work really well with MJ!


#9

What could’ve happened overnight? On a budget. Cannot buy products to correct the issue until? Friday. Please make suggestions before it’s too late. Nutrients? PH? Water?

Change is only taking place in the area closet to the light source.


#10

@Moringa Have you added any nutrients lately? What has changed?
I went through the deficiencies map bob31 posted above and it could be boron/manganese deficiency ? I wouo d go through the map and see if any of the issues map exactly what you see.

Are there any pests on the plant? Check underside of leaves and see if any eggs or droppings anywhere.

Also you said close to light source. Did you bring them inside and are now providing artificial light cycle? More details about this is important.


#11

Looks like light burn to me. What is your lighting? @Moringa


#12

Thanks!
The lighting was adjusted and Neem Oil was also applied to prevent gnats. Something is working as I don’t have additional leaf damage.

Ordered products and excited about using them just want some direction. By now everyone has seen the lone plant. Up to this point no nutrients have been applied also have never done ph testing. I am educating myself everyday and learning a ton.

Products ordered based on ILGM suggestions:

  1. Ph up down
  2. General Hyponics Trio
  3. Improved logging
  4. 60x magnifier
  5. Soil tester.

My plan:

Test the runoff water to confirm ph level
Plants needs watering.
Will water with correct ph for flowering stage.
Add nutes…do I add all three n utes at once? How much for a single plant at flowering? Will instructions, recommended serving size etc. Be provided? Any guidance is appreciated.

Super excited about the products. Just want to do this right.
Thanks!


#13

Mix the nutes in water all.together just make sure you ease into it with diluted strength.


#14

So, PH of soil is at 5. Does that mean I need to add Ph up? Or, is it time to test the run off water and adjust the ph from there. Im stooked that all my products have been delivered. Ready to treat my baby like a queen. Thanks all in advance.


#15

@Moringa Did you buy a pH tester for water or soil?

Also when you respond, please tag us like @bob31 so that we know you are looking for us!


#16

@bob31
Actually, both. The soil tested at 5.
Made a mixture of nutes = ph 6
Watered Babygirl…Runoff = 6.5-7

Thanks


#17

is it one of those prong meters? They aren’t very accurate @Moringa and I wouldn’t rely on them.

Tell me about your soil, please. Could you list the ingredients? I can tell most likely by looking at the ingredients what pH the water should be.

When you filled out the support ticket, you just listed it as soil. We need more info! @Moringa

Also we like exact numbers when we read the pH. Potted MJ plants are funny about the pH. They like it exactly where they like it. And they don’t tolerate swings in pH. So let’s be exact and that will help keep your plants happy!


#18

@bob31

Don’t laugh or give up on me. Jumped into this with little knowledge…
Soil = Miracle Grow Moisture for Veggies. Used the same soil last year for tomatoes. Used a plant/rose food soil treatment a few times with 2-4-3 on the front of the bag.

Thanks for letting me know about the meter.
Is the ph up on down kit a reliable testing source for water?
Still awaiting delivery (Sunday) of the recommended digital ph reader. Exact reading wont be available until Sunday. I got the 6.5-7 range by comparing my result to the back of the phUpDown bag.

Thanks.


#19

hahaha

Only laughing with you! We will get you and your plants on the straight and narrow!

Go get that bag and list the ingredients here for me.

Also take a look at that bag and doesn’t it say time release fertilizers and no further fertilizer is needed for like 90 days or something??? @moringa

from the MG Website

Grow a bountiful harvest with Miracle-Gro® Garden Soil Vegetables & Herbs. Enriched with a blend of essential nutrients and formulated with continuous release plant food, it will feed plants for up to 3 months. Plus, Moisture Control® technology protects against over- and under-watering so you can grow a bigger harvest. *vs. unfed plants

Apply when planting vegetables and herbs outdoors (not in containers), or when preparing soil in outdoor gardens and landscape beds.

If this is what you are using it really isn’t proper for using in containers (pots).

But lets have you double check your bag to be sure we have the same thing. You could also take pics of the bag and post those


#20

Lights or bugs could have happened overnight @Moringa…or I suppose it could be soil/nute related. Best of luck to you!