That’s some seriously scary (hopefully paranoid and not true) shit right there. If cops could pick them up people would get utterly hut raped.
I use an air cooled ipower 600 watt hid mentioned in @B345T post…it is set up in my cellar, it does raise temps, it will grow healthy, potent medicine.
The 600 watt is the most efficient for energy to light.
Hands down… Solis-Tek!!!
No fans, no noise…
Also, very minimal heat. Just let one of your oscillating fans blow across your ballast.
I also run their bulbs, because they use low E glass.
Just check out Hydro Empire, I picked up their 1000 watt ballast for $210.
Just don’t get the new Matrix, they’ve been having software problems with them… they still have a few bugs to work out.
No joke @McLovin777… real $h!t…
If you are using a electronic balist and you have a am / fm radio and you have it set at a certain megahertz it will pick up your Ballasts from like 2 miles away… 
Trust me… old school magnetic when it comes to stealth @McLovin777 … I only speak from truth… always…
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I will look back in my info for the 2 electronic units I’m talking about that won’t get you busted and post… but if I was any of you wanting to use hps or MH … I would go magnetic unless you don’t give a f_£k… then do whatever… in the end I’m just trying to keep all of you safe…
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Thanks everyone some good info. Even though I am in a legal state I don’t need to draw attention to the growing.
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Virtual Sun 600W HPS MH Grow Light Hood Reflector Magnetic Ballast Kit 600 Watt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UGWWSW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.EvjzbAZNK92R
Just found this one. Opinions? @peachfuzz
I’ll scare you a bit more @McLovin777 I heard a story the other day say a German company has figured out a why to get 3D images from any where there is wifi signals so basically they can see everything 
I’m sure this is a bad thing if it get out to marked
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@Smokin_ernie for me personally i prefer a dimmable ballast not sure if they do them for the old skool magnetics??
that way you can introduce them to the bulb over a few days rather than just smashing them with 600w day one lol
was interested in what @peachfuzz was saying though about the frequency going to have to look into that coz yeah urmm don’t need the extra attention here lol…
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I posted something earlier @B345T
I heard a German company developed a system that can make 3D images out of wifi signals basically allowing them to see anywhere there is wifi
Talk about scary
I’m going to go off the grid soon lol
The set up you posted would work perfectly… the only thing that I could not find where the specs on the hood as far it’s dementions… just curious how big or small it is… price wasn’t bad either…
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yeah just read that in the morning garden 
going to disable the wifi on my router now
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Congrats!!! Did you just get the hood or was it the whole kit?
It as a kit for 160. Now i just got to watch temps lol.
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So I think I have narrowed down which type of ballast to go with. I going to look more into the magnetic ones. So now lets talk about the bulb itself. MH is good for vegging, HPS good for flowering. Is it necessary to run both? Can you run HPS threw a whole grow? There seems to be a lot of different ways to get to end product. I just ordered a T5 to add to my other one and going to use it to get things started. Then possibly switching to HPS for finishing. I know some like the LED but that is still a bit out of my price range.
@B345T @TokersHaven @peachfuzz @Countryboyjvd1971 @kabongster @McLovin777
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You can get x 2 450w meizhi which are as good as a 600w not doubt and you have no heat problems. As for MH HPS,I’d 100% pay 20 extra for another bulb, for 1 if it did die randomly no worries you have a hps and 2 mh looks soo different than hps. Last but a million percent not least. Get a ballast with 250, 400, 600w some only have 400 and 600 and them super lumen. All in all of say get the leds, I brought 3 600ws that I just can’t use my man… wish I could but the heat means of have to run my fan full blast which is too noisy for my neighbours. Good luck anyway
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Using HPS for veg will cause your little lady to stretch up not something you want early on, So a halide is the best option by far for vegging, and for flowering might i suggest a dual spectrum rather rather than pure red just watch the Purple spectrum on the box the more there is the better that way will give you a higher THC content something to do with UVB lol…
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