This would work?
This would work?
And this is just genius!! I gave up trying to clip my fan to the vertical poles. I see a 3D printer in my future…
That looks like the files. If you have 16mm poles then download the file : 16.stl
I’m sure you saw there were also files for 19mm and 22mm. Just pick the correct size for your tent poles. if your friend is going to make them for you be sure to give him the printer settings.
Print standing up
3 perimeters is fine
4 top/bottom shells
I think for 8 of them it was 11hrs printing on my printer.
Its cool some of the stuff that thingverse has files for.
Awesome, thanx for the info!
OK so here it is week 7, and I’m on the fence for flipping them. Some are up to the net but most are not.
Now from past experience we know that there will be a stretch for the 3 weeks following light change so it is certain that the mains will be above the net at harvest but what about the rest of the side branches? Another thing to note is the deficiencies in some of the leaves…
I am going to be “zen” about this and not let it bother me.
Before going with a higher power led panel I never saw deficiency in my plants with this grow box.
I’m running a 440W full power light set at 176 watts draw and at 20 inches to my net. For the new people at growing indoors and are using the better led lights, there is a direct correlation of the distance and wattage of these lights. I have seen posts of people that literally fry their plants when they are small by running them too high and to close. I am at the top of what you should use for vegging right now.
From past experience 350 on my meter is more than adequate for vegging, so I am running a bit high. Higher par does make the plants use more in nutrients. But this grow log is to show that you do not have to mix a different batch of nute’s each watering, and guess what they need.
This will bring me to another topic of lighting and the “throw’ that LEDs have.
I have seen pictures of grows that show their plants with maybe 2 mains that are at least 10 inches above the rest of the plant. The drop off of par in 10 inches is big. That means that those 2 main colas are going to be great but the lower part of the plant will be a little bit less in their bud production.
That is actually why I went with the netting in this grow. I’m trying to keep it more compact in height so penetration won’t be as big of a factor and my lower buds sites will get stronger light. if you look at the HGL 650 ppfd charts, at 24” in the center it reads 1107 and at 30" its 796. the drop off in just 6" makes a difference. Think of it, if your plant has a couple of mains that are 6" plus above the rest of your plant how productive is that lower portion of the plant that doesn’t have the intensity of the top?
In real sunlight the par readings are the same from the top to bottom of the plant, less any shading from the upper leaves.
OK now that I gave you something to think about… I’m switching to flower when the lights go out…
Be cool be safe.
Another week has passed and we are at week 8.
I flipped to flower just yesterday 1/17 so real close to 8 full weeks of veg.
A couple more branches passed the scrog line.
The underside will need more cleaning up and I want to get more clones for the upcoming outdoor grow season. So win/win.
Later this week I’ll put up my “home built” clone machine, and talk about that.
I went in and did a little clean up. From the pictures I see I need to do some more.
I can hardly tell from the top view.
I did a cleaning of my home built clone machine. Bleached it and ran for an hour, then complete rinsing.
I took some of the cuttings and trimmed to what I have had work best from this.
This cloner is only a 4 spot so I doubled up and put 2 in all but 1 that got 3.
All clones were dipped in clonex and then misted.
Over the years there have been people running the aero cloners that claimed they had to add ice to their cloners because of the heat that gets generated from the pump that sits in the reservoir. So I made this one with the pump external of the reservoir. I used a high pressure pump like what is used in RV’s and boats for their water systems. The pump has the capability of up to 96 psi before the switch shuts it off.
This is going through spray heads so the pump never sees that much pressure. I originally tried misting heads but they clogged to easy, so I went with these
OK, so I have a 12 volt pump that needed a power supply. I just happen to have one I built in the 80’s for motorcycle batteries.
Now about the heat thing that has plagued some cloners. I have found that you do not need to run the pump 24/7. In this design I’m not worried about heat build up,but have you ever been in a motor home and run water? Those pumps are loud. I actually have had better success cloning by cycling the pump than running continuous. So here is a great little timer that I have set for 1 minute on 10 minutes off. I have a 24 spot cloner I built that has an internal pump. When I use that the cycling will help keep the heat down in that. Something to keep in mind for the clone machine crowd.
Its been about 1/2 hour since I put the cuttings in the cloner and its almost time to fire it up. We didn’t want to just wash off the clonex, I wanted it to sink in a while. I also have misted the tops several times already.
It will be at least 2 weeks before results will be known.
Week 9 update:
8 days since the lights went to 12/12.
Not much happening. A few more branches have made it through the net. I had 4 that I topped because they were shooting up faster than the rest of them, and I want to keep canopy height close to the same for all. I also cleaned out a little more of the fan leaves that were blocking light.
From the pictures it looks like I should be cleaning it up a little better LOL.
As far as watering, it is using 1/2 the reservoir in about 4 days time so I don’t think the air stone is needed so that’s been pulled. When the reservoir gets to 1/2, I fill it. (don’t want the roots in there to dry out)
Thanks to @dbrn32 I have a great veg light for a different tent.
I repurposed an aluminum plate that I tried the 120v Cob lights on that made just too much heat. I have it set at 140 watts draw which gives me over 400 on my PAR meter at 16 inches, and very little heat. I put a 10 ft lead on the output of the driver to mount it outside the tent. The driver feels hotter than the plate aluminum the LED’s are mounted on.
That is keeping these happy:
Week 10 and not too much happened to the plants. I added watered once to the box and did some more trimming/topping. Its a little hard to get to those plants in the back.
I added two more trimmings to the clone bucket. 1 the flowering had started so we will see if it takes.
Clones are just getting little nubs on them, so they will probably survive.
Lets look in the other tent…
They look like they are liking it. Now this is the same grow box as the other Buddha grow but I didn’t put the mat on top with the fertilizer, and I am top watering instead of just filling the reservoir. The 2 plants in pots are Critical “regular” so their sex is yet to be determined.
Check out the difference in these 2.
They are both Green Crack feminized. Planted at the same time, soil, and lighting. The one on the right is more compact node spacing is closer. I topped the plant on the left almost too close to the 4th node.
I haven’t touched the other. I want to get at least 6 clones from each of these girls before going for a finish.
I believe this is week 11 in the growbox. They didn’t really stretch like I thought they would.
I thought that they were frying a bit so I turned down the wattage on the light and raised it from 24 to 30 inches above the net.
The clones are doing their thing looks like all the original are at least developing nubs, some are pretending they have a tap root.
Bad news for the mothers, I found it last week. I thought they were having a nute deficiency because of yellowing of the leaves on 1 plant. Holy shit, I got spider mites. Probably from the 2 house plants my wife brought in for the lighting.
Every 3 days for 2 weeks I’ll be spraying with Capt Jacks DEADBUG.
This sprayer is awesome for applying indoors. This is the 418 they have a 419 that has a longer wand on it that had I known I would have gotten it.
The other tent is still doing its thing.
Not sure why the light green on the ones in the growbox. They are going to be sprayed also for mites.Till next week…Smoke em if you got em…
Week 12 and still getting a hold of the mite infestation. The mothers are looking better and less live critters are found in leaf inspections. They weren’t very prevalent in this growbox as they were in the mothers. I’ve been drenching the mothers every 3 days since I spotted the little bastards. I have only hit the growbox a couple times and inspection of the leaves don’t show any survivors. I still get shocked when I see some walking around on the mothers leaves.
I’ve been taking leaves off on the flowering plants to give more light to the lower bud sites. You can see the difference in today’s photo.
Leaves are yellowing a little premature compared to last grow so I am trying something new.
The reservoir holds 2 1/2 gallons, so I mixed up a couple gallons of nutrients. I am using General hydroponics nutes.(they are like Jacks 123). I drained the reservoir and added the 2 gallons (Mixed) then a 1/2 gal straight tap to top off.
If you read from the beginning you saw My tap water was pretty decent. so the numbers are 620 tds at 6.7ph from the tap. after mixing nutes it ended up at 1478 TDS and 6.21 ph.
The growbox wicks the water into the soil on top kind of like hydroponics without the pumps. This is the first time I have tried adding nutrients to the reservoir because if you use the mat cover with nutrients you would just add water. Check out the damage on the leaves. I thought it was from running my lights too close and too high of output. I did go from a 200 watt light to a 420 watt capable light.
This was my indoor grow, same strain with lower wattage lights. Still respectable for lower wattage
Other “shit” that happened the past week:
Because of the spraying for mites it raised my RH quite a bit. So in plugging in direct my whole room filtered exhaust fan, I hit a button on the clone bucket timer effectually turning it off. I noticed it when the newest (3 days old) cuttings looked like they were dead. That was about 30 + hours without the pump running. I had planted (in solo cups) 4 of the clones 2 days before this happened.
They still are doing their thing so I guess because the lid was a closed, it kept the moisture level up enough to not kill them. Tough to kill weeds… just look in my front yard. I’ve been trying to kill them for years with chemicals.
Week 13 on the Grow and starting 5th week of flower. These are probably going to be 10 weeks of flowering to complete. The yield doesn’t look like its going to be as good as my last grow where I just topped to keep the plants at an even height. I thought that tying them down would spread them a little more in the tent but it doesn’t look like it was worth the trouble.
In the other tent everything is going fine. One of these days I’ll write down when I plant seeds so I’ll know how old they are.
So far I have put 10 of the clones into solo cups. Every cutting has done its thing and I have added more cuttings from different strains.
I need to do a bunch from the veg and mother tents. Guess I’ll have to break out the 24 hole cloner I built.
It cost me about $30 to build this one. Biggest expense was the pump @ about $20.
Week 14, 6th week of flowering. Leaves are getting used up fast. Maybe I won’t need to trim
Its been running between 81- 85 deg. in there with this new light. I can’t wait for the parts to show up to relocate the drivers to outside the tent. I’ve had to run the filter exhaust fan 3 additional times a day as the smell and heat increases.
I made a bunch of clones so I set up the bigger clone machine
Some of those have 3 per space. Guess I’ll need a bunch of solo cups.
Other tent is doing good considering how many clones I took. Looks like I can take some more already
The mothers are shaping up again after that spider mite infestation.
Week 15: Thankfully the 2 pin disconnects showed up. My temps were getting way out of hand @92F
Remoted the drivers with 7ft leads and temps went down about 4° Our temps outside have dropped a couple degrees also. I want to mount the drivers on a piece of aluminum and keep them cooler.
Plants look like hell and its only 7th week of flower. At least 3 maybe as much as 5 more til I can put them out of their misery.