Homemade 5G hydro bucket system, using what I got for now. Request feedback

You aren’t one of those guys who buys shit off Amazon and claims it is crap.
You are a highly skilled “Make it Work” kind of guy! I salute you, Sir!

Quick question.
Would you also say your system allows plants to grow twice as fast as traditional in soil methods?

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I buy from Amazon all the time. Some stuff is crap and some not so much.

:+1:t2::+1:t2: I try to make it as easy as possible.
I’ve grown in coco and will never grow any other way.

There are a ton of different ways to grow, different styles, medium, you just have to figure out what’s best for your growing style.
Lights, I did not skimp on.

IMHO, that’s a loaded question. So many factors to consider. Lights, environment, nutes, training all play a big part in how they grow.
With that being said, hydro does have its advantages over soil or coco.
I don’t have to tend to my plants every day like I did when I was in coco.
Growing with Jack’s nutrients has also made a huge difference. It takes all the guess work out of the equation.

To answer your debatable question, in my opinion, yes it does at times tend to grow bigger.

If you decide to grow differently and are unsure of something, ask before you do something. If you have a question, it’s probably been done by somebody on here. Someone will be able to steer you in the right direction.
Hope this helps. Good luck! :+1:t2::v::sunglasses:

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Army trains to KISS it. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
I’m doing my best to remember all my long ago sphagnum moss hydro experiences, and lessons learned.
Trying to incorporate all the new advances in tech, and even bio-engineering, into a more comprehensive bigger picture of growing that suits me and my lifestyle.

You could replace your pellets with some kind of a Coco mix and it would still be considered a hydro grow, No?

Maybe a plant progress report is in order:


The big picture.






Recent flower development seems to be doing well. :+1:

Bottom of my small tent’s enviroment.
I have 2 new LEDs arriving tomorrow to hang horizontally on the sides to replace the one there now.

Plus the mykos and my timers. I’m very interested in putting the pump on a 1/2 on 1/2 off schedule.
I’m thinking that the 1/2 hour wet/drying cycle will be better for the current set-up.
My WWA is going to expand and take up all the light from above, hence the side LEDs.
Both to keep my 2 SSH photos vegging properly, and as a booster light source for WWA’s lower buds.
So far I think I’m doing pretty well for my 1st time after a 25+ year hiatus.
I can picture in my mind those WWA buds filling out and finishing up. Should be good stuff.
The SSH photos will be trained like this as best as I can:

I’d like to implement a new auto-watering system on the SSH girls when I flip them to flower.
I was leaning towards that Autopot system, but you blew my mind with your set-up @spyonyou :+1:
I’ve got something new and DIY to consider now after seeing that
And then using that on every new grow after that.

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Growing in coco is a growing method that is considered hydro because the medium has not nutrient properties, so technically, no. DWC, RDWC and maybe some others out there are true hydro. Autopots are a good idea which I think @Nicky has mentioned and a great way to grow.
My system is maintenance free until the end of the grow. Then it’s just a matter of washing everything out and put it back together. No leaks yet… :crossed_fingers:

If you could raise the plants on the floor to the height of the tallest plant, it would help them out.

Lots of remedies other that running more lights and electricity and making your grow space hotter possibly.

Brother, your plants are looking great. Keep’em growin! :+1:t2::v::sunglasses:

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I was doing that before the WWA entered flower. But now I can see that it is very likely that the WWA’s canopy of bud growth will shade out everything below it, at least until I do a final defoliation nearing the end of flowering. So lights underneath that to help the WWA’s lower branches that aren’t getting enough light and also covering my vegging SSH photos with enough light to keep them growing properly. Electricity is not an issue, included in my rent, but heat might be. That is why I tried to buying the smaller non-adjustable output LEDs The LED already in there is like 4"x16" and does not get very hot compared to my top light LED. The new LEDs are 12" x 12" and should cover a little bit bigger area with enough light energy to make a positive difference in all 3 plants with little heat added. At least that is what I’m hoping for…

I think I figured out a way to tell the water level in my bucket without messing with the plant in the bag. I lifted up the cardboard and stuck my digital camera’s lense down between the bag and the bucket wall and took a flash picture:



I don’t want the water level to rise above the bottom of the bag. I think I should be able to see if that is the case. In these pics I can’t seem to see where the water level is, but can tell it is not over the bottom of the bag right now. I think?

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Pump bucket update on my other thread:

:+1: :sunglasses:

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Autos love 20/4 cycle. The more light the better as long as they get some rest. Not ‘bro’ science but well documented out there.

@spyonyou
Thanks so much for sharing. I’m new and learning as much as I can so I will go and read your grow!

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Awesome idea I have to follow this grow now.

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Thank you! It seems to be working even better than I thought it would.
Easy to deal with. Mix up a gallon of nutes as desired, PH to 5.8 - 6.0
Then just pour the whole gallon in the bucket.
She’s effectively using 1+ gallons of water per day now!

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Slight issue to solve. The plant is growing too fast and getting too close to the light!
I had to tie some of the branches down so I could bend them under the net to keep them from touching the light. Solving 1 problem always exposes other problems to be addressed. I had just put the pump in the center of the bucket and lowered the bag on top of that. The bag would not sit level and the water pumping up into the bag caused the center of the bag to move up and the edges to go lower. I needed the bag to sit flat on top of the pump. The pumps little suction holder would not stay on the pump and then the pump would tip on it’s side. All no good things. Reattached the suction mount to the pump and secured with duct tape so it would not fall off again. Another issue solved for now. Mounted the pump with the valve that points up set in the middle of the bucket. I searched the kitchen and found this little steaming tray. I flipped it over and placed it on top of the pump leaving a flat level platform to put the bag on. Put the bag back in the bucket and it sits flat with its top edge now sitting about an inch above the bucket’s lip. OK, it is sitting flat and level now so I can even add more water to the bucket than before. OK, Pump and Bucket issues all seem to be resolved for now. Now back to the original problem the buds are growing too close to the light. Using the tie-downs and the elastic netting I am working on routing too tall buds to areas where they no longer reach the light. This problem is a work in progress and will need branches re-positioned and adjusted on a daily basis. Now I think I can now keep the plant off the light with my daily adjustments! The pump with the bag sitting flat on it should now work even better! :+1: :sunglasses:






Any helpful suggestions to explore out there?

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You look like you’re about the same stage in flower as I am with my autos.

If I had a height restriction, I would do whatever it takes to keep all the tops at the same height, weather it is pinching, cropping, tying down. You have to keep them away from the light, OR… let them grow and run into the light…. Ouch! It’s a battle we have to concur at times. :v::sunglasses:

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During the fixing of the pump in the bucket issues, the bag sat on the bucket rim as I fixed things.
Get her back in the bucket sitting flat and notice some leaves were touching the LED during the fix. Got a few scorched leaves to remove. Hopefully, now I will be able to keep all the other tops from getting too close to the light and getting scorched too!

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Day # 51 from dropping seeds in water. 5 more weeks to go???
I am hoping my few lower branches can get level with the rest.
Then I can finalize everyone’s positions and let them finish up without the moving-around drama of busting or burning any bud sites! :+1: :sunglasses:

I’m 60 days from dropping in water on Baby, the one on the left and 75 days on Sugar, the one on the right.
Most will count flower time from the first day of bud sites… roughly.
So, they started flowering about a week apart and I first saw bud sites about, 2 & a half weeks ago on Sugar and a week & a half ago on the Baby. So 6 weeks on Sugar and 7 weeks on Baby roughly.

That was Friday. I haven’t had a chance to look at them since. I’ll try to get some pictures tonight after 10 when they wake up. :+1:t2::v::sunglasses:

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Made a change in the pump timer today.
The cardboard on top was slightly wet and the soil seems to be a little too wet.
So I was running the pump 1/2 hour on 1/2 hour off 24/7.
I’m thinking she might do better if the soil dries up more.
Changed timer to 1/2 on 1 1/2 off. So from 1-1 down to 3-1.
I think the 30 minutes is enough for the roots to get what they need still.
And 90 minutes gives time for the roots to get some oxygen too.
Things are still looking good, but wondering if it could be even better?

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I do seem to be using less water now, so some was just evaporating away before.

See how some of her buds look today, here:

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Well, I say the proof of concept is validated.
But I have bigger issues to deal with now.
The bucket robs the plant of 6+ inches of height.
So I removed the bucket & pump and added 2 side LEDs.


Looking to give the WWA all the light I can to help her finish her buds. :+1: :sunglasses:

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The Auto-Pot system only uses like 2" and keeps the plant at optimum water usage.


I’m a little concerned about the increased temp caused by my 2 additional side LEDs.
But I was running all 3 LEDs at 100% when I recorded 97 F.
I’ve lowered the 2 side LEDs down to like 20% and the top to 80%.
I also just turned the Auto-pot system on, so the humidity should also rise with the temp now.
I’m watching closely for any malfunctions in the Auto-pot, so far so good.
I thought my buds had a lot of their white hairs turn orange but this pic does not seem to show that.

@Nicky @ADK_Guerrila @spyonyou @Caligurl @Missesgrowfairy @Dr.ofSmokology @Hellraiser @Dhooter @Bamamojo @pillsbury

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I have to agree. Just the top ones show some darkness towards the tips but rest are white

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