GDP + KIND Soil (Indoor tent, first grow)

Hi everyone, this is my first grow. I’m hoping to make enough medicine for personal use. Due to my location I have to maintain a certain amount that is decriminalized. I’m also not interested in making more than I need.

Gear post: My first setup, seeking advice + budget reduction

I appreciate any and all advice. Shoutout to @SilentHippie and the KIND Soil Grow. Let's see if it's all they claim grow journal!

I hope to clip some branches and press them into rosin for usage while the rest of the flowers finish. (Not sure if this is a good idea or not). I have no expectation but learning and hopefully a usable harvest.

Environment
The GDP will be in a 3 gallon fabric pot (3lbs KIND soil on bottom, coco loco to 1" less than pot top)
In a 24 x 24 x 60 grow tent, in a closet
In a room that’s usually between 65 - 78 degrees with around 40 - 45% natural RH
The tent will have a 4" active exhaust filter setup that will vent into the top of the closet
with one 4" USB intake fan towards the tent’s mesh bottom opening, outside of the opening there will be an active carbon filter, the room has plenty of controlled air or fresh air available to it if needed
The RH can be adjusted manually as needed as well
The GDP will have an oscillating fan aimed at it’s canopy shortly after sprouting
The light (LED Samsung/Meanwell) will be positioned 18 - 24" above the canopy and adjusted as needed

Seed
Starting out I’m going to put the seed into it’s final destination and germinate there (sprinkle with water, cover if needed, ensure tent humidity is between 50 - 60%., light at 18" 12/12 to start)

Nutrients & Watering
Done as directed by KIND (no nutrients, do not water to excess, I’m going to weigh it as suggested to get a feel for watering in the beginning)
The water will be carbon filtered and left to sit for a min of 24 hours before watering, it’s PH will be adjusted shortly before watering using food grade up/down if needed (not between 6.3 - 7)

Training
I plan to low stress train by bending and tying down branches and to also top the plant when it reaches it’s 5th node. I’m also going to remove weak branches / leaves and those that are light blocking.

Light cycles
During germination the light will be on a 12/12 cycle
When the leaves start growing out and nodes start appearing the light will change to 18/6
When its time to start flowering the light will change to 12/12

Status
Items pending delivery, closet not empty and I am completely STOKED! :slight_smile: I’ll be updating this thread early every week - stay tuned!

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It’s your grow but I would advise against this. They are expensive seeds and I would germinate them properly. If you want to drop them in their final resting place after germination, that’s works. Would also go 18/6 or 6/2 until you’re ready to flower. And I would get that humidity up to at least 80% which is easily attainable using a clear dome or clear solo cup over the seedling when it sprouts.

As I said, it’s your grow so you do you. Have fun and I wish you the best of luck

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Thank you for the heads up, I’m just nervous about messing up the handling of the seed after it germinates into the soil. I’ll watch some YouTubes on it and give it a shot.

Thanks for the humidity tip! I have a few humidifier options but the cup sounds easy so I’ll do that. Just to clarify you mean that 80% only during germination? I was reading that GDP likes it dry (40 - 50%).

I’m confused with 6/2?

Thank you and to you as well on your current/next grow! (Thanks for your help on the other thread as well).

Seedlings pull their water through their leaves when they’re young. They don’t have a root system to pull water from the soil. As they get older and established the humidity can come down. I’ve had 100% success germinating in a shot glass of water with a capful of hydrogen peroxide. Place in a dark, warm place and usually after 24hrs they have tails. If they go 48hrs with no tail I’ll place it on a moist paper towel and put it in a ziplock bag.

If you don’t want to handle the germinated seed, you can just pour it into the hole

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Sorry forgot to clarify this part. I run 6on/2off in veg. So every 6hrs they get a 2hr nap. It helps keep heat down and they never get that worn out look after blasting them for 18 straight hrs.

I’ll follow your tip for getting the seed started, that seems like the best way that also keeps it simple for a noob like myself.

I haven’t seen the 6/2 schedule before but I’m interested in it. I need to research this topic more in general but def. how lighting works overall - I have/had a natural idea that I’d want to mimic the sun but I assume that the scheduling is used to increase yield.

Would it out of line to see how the plant does for a week at 6/2 and then 18/6 or whatever else I’d want to experiment with?

You’d be perfectly fine doing that. Either way they’re getting 18hrs of light a day.

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Hello World, meet Esther, a ILGM GDP :).

She started in a shot glass and sank before the day was over, at that point I transferred the seed a red solo cup filled with room to spar with Roots organic. I couldn’t get coco loco anywhere. I’ve been misting the top soil twice a day (just 2 - 3 sprays from a spray bottle a few inches away). I’m hoping the seed shell falls off today, she really stretched up yesterday.

Should I poke holes in the bottom of the cup?

The KIND soil hasn’t yet shipped and my email asking for an ETA has yet to be returned. I’m not actually sure when I would transplant yet but if it doesn’t get here in time I’ll switch to FFHF (avoiding PH concerns in OF) and to manual nutes (Probably the pre-made FF stuff).

Do you think I should add more soil to the solo cup? I started it a little low in the event I needed to add more to fix something, but now I fear it’s growing too tall - then again I really don’t know :).

This is the setup :slight_smile: - I know it’s pretty modest but I’m excited by it and the process so far. Getting the filter / fan in there was a trip. I have to actually re mount the light to use the outer top poles at the top so that it adjusts easier (it rubs against the filter now).

The light is on 60% power and ~ 2 ft above the plant.

Temp has been between 68 - 78, RH 40 - 50% (really around 44/45). That fan in the far right corner oscillates and is tilted to move some air over and onto the plant (it shakes with every rotation).

Thanks for everyone’s help so far :), Esther and I appreciate it!

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Funny you talking about switching to FFHF to avoid pH problems. FFHappyFrog is actually the soil I was using in my first grow that had all kinds of issues with drainage and pH problems.

I’m running FFOceanForest now and have NO problems. My pH in is 6.3 and my pH out is 6.4. When I was using Happy Frog my run out pH was 7.3

And if I remember right, the FFHF had all kinds of chunks of wood and rocks in it. I hated it. Very happy with FFOF.

I would not add more soil to your cups. This can cause damping off. I would DEF poke holes in the bottom of the cups.

You can cover the cups with a zip lock baggie to hold moisture in. If you think they are stretching, lower your lights a bit.
Between 200-400 PPFD: This is great for seedlings, clones, and mother plants.
Between 400-600 PPFD: This is great for early to late stage vegging cycles.
Between 600-900+ PPFD: This is great for the flowering, fruiting, or budding stage of plants.

I’m just really hoping the KIND soil ships soon :slight_smile: I have a big bag of Roots now, it def. wasn’t the cheapest but I’d plan to use the KIND on bottom (3lbs), then fill to -1 " w/roots on top, per KINDs instructions.

I really don’t want to get into manual nutrients on the first run… if so I’d do a HF or OF bottom w/a mix or roots / perlite & coco coir on top (mimicking Kinds instructions basically). I thought I read on this forum somewhere that OF recently has had a PH issue. I’d have to try and find that.

Awesome tip about the sprout, thank you… it’s a little too late for adding soil as I did it last night (Sprout check in) , and it’s already stretched out again. I’ve made a few adjustments this am to the light, I don’t have a meter but a decently reviewed app has the top of the cup / canopy between 22k - 25k lux, which after some quick googling seems too strong. I’ve adjusted the intensity down to ~13k and misted a bag and put it over it. Temp is 78.9 w/RH at 58 (and rising):

I think I had it too high and too low initially, now it’s a lot lower but with reduced power, hopefully that helps.

Yeah, you want your seedlings at 70-75% humidity.