Forced injection system no air pump necessary

So I’ve found this,

XtremepowerUS 3/4HP 2400GPH Pond DIY Self Primming Above Ground Swimming Pool Pump w/Strainer Basket 1.5" NPT Amazon.com

And did a quick install, but after a few weeks of having it I discovered I could create a whole new system by reversing the draw and sending it back to the totes/planters creating “forced injection system”

So

Simple concept but to each tote we will add a Venturi system to draw air in and not have to add air pumps.

:::Basic idea, pull from res reduce and send to planters:::

Blue lines are passive flow , red lines are for forced flow coming from pump back into the totes for each plant. Before the tote I’ll add in a

Irrigation Venturi Fertilizer Injectors Device Garden Water Tube, Mixer Injectors Agriculture Irrigation Plastic Tube Agriculture Tool Watering Kit.(1/2" 3/4” 1” Inch)(G1/2 四分) https://a.co/d/aq07smm

To draw air. It’s just a simple spring , ball, o-ring that doesn’t allow back flow of water but under lower pressure allows injection of anything it can pull (liduid or air) , for this purpose I will only be sucking in air

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The concept is good, but do you think the oxygen will dissolve? I haven’t dabbled into hydroponics too much but have always assumed this was reason for stones over just dropping line from air pump with check valve on it.

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It will work the same if not better than the air stone. Mixes it in the pump first then draws fresh air through the Venturi system to pump directly into the totes constantly.

That system will never turn off exactly like the stones. Unlike the stones it will not allow the roots to engulf it and only allow air to concentrate in one source.

This will allow constant mixing of air and nutrients inside each individual container.

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I use Venturi systems all the time on aquariums. It allows for avoiding the dreaded hum of the diaphragm pump under the fish tank.

The only problem is the air intake will grow a calcium/bicarbonate salt clot at the intake spot. Usually after about a month of sucking bubbles. A good way to prevent this is to submerge the Venturi intakes underwater (usually rotate it 180degrees) so it’s facing downward. Do this once a week for an hour and it should not clot. It it clogs all the way just soak it in vinegar over night. Still way better than clogged airstones.

If you don’t have a recirculating reservoir one of the smallest pumps just in your reservoir works good too.
Drill the intake plastic and slip in a few inches of airline. It will suck bubbles and water and chop them up as they go thru the impeller.



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nice layout you designed…

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@PharmerBob, I think you maybe on too something here. You may want to look into how a hot tub injects air into the jets. They use an air loop piped around the top, and the inlet adjusting knobs are very efficient at adjusting the incoming air.
But on the other hand I have to ask, do we really need to make hydroponics more complicated?

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The Venturi system works well for this I’ve used it on a few other projects where it needed to pull an air / liquid ratio and these are fantastic for doing exactly that.

These ones Dont give you the ability to play with the saturation levels but they are fixed at a 1/10 and have a decent draw when tapping a finger on the tube while system is running.

And yes hydroponics should always be trying something new and different……if not we’d all be playing in dirt right?

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My “KISS”, common sense is always in conflict with my “here is a better way”, imagination.
So I fully support your efforts, but my common sense has to ask that question.

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I yell kiss to people all the time I get it completely!

What happens to me is I start with kiss and then adjust for issues and it becomes this

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I understand completely!
I have a funny story about an old buddy and the KISS principal. I will try to type it out in the next couple days and post it.

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