Earlier stage of a deficiency?


#1


#2

Auto flowering feminized blue dream. 7 and a half weeks into flowering, a foliar feeding of Epsom salt yesterday before lights out because I think it’s a MAG deficiency.


#3

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If you would fill out this support ticket and be as complete as possible. What soil, what water, how you ph, what you ph to, what nutes, what lights etc. It looks like N but in flower deficiencies will start to happen which you want.


#4

It’s as basic as I could get, most of those questions would of been N/A but I’m growing in soil mixed with worm casting potting soil in a five gallon bucket. 600w MH for vegging and 600w HPS for flower, all of my notes are homemade and natural banana peel, urine, and bone meal. those are the main three ingredient there’s also other things like molasses and vinegar I use so there’s a diverse selection of bacteria and minerals. Nothing’s really on a schedule I’ll let the plant tell me what it needs I’m growing in a closet in the garage so it gets plenty of CO2 from Outdoors although maybe not as much as it would if it was Outdoors but close enough. Stays around 29 or 30 Celsius in the daytime and 20 or 21 at night, humidity never goes over 45 usually hovers around 35. I feed twice water once. Any other questions just ask and I’ll tell you just really need to figure out what kind of deficiency this is hoping it is a deficiency and not a pH imbalance


#5

I’ve never seen that before. It’s not the start of powdery mildew is it?
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#6

It’s the foliar feed doesn’t look like mildew and actually they just look to be P def not Mag which isn’t such a bad thing easy to fix with a PK booster. Phosphorus is in high demand during flower


#7

I didn’t think you would be up so early today? How was that frigid sunrise? Lol…jk


#8

Looks like residues left from foliar feeding. Use some ph’d water with a drop or two of soap to clean off. I do see some P deficiency.


#9

After 7 am and training myself back into early mornings for my work season by now I will have been up 3 hrs and be at work already for over 40 min :wink: So not early just getting back onto normal routine


#10

Okay, so my bone meal is literally bone that has been grinded into a powder and put in with the feeding, maybe it’s still not breaking down fast enough forthe plant to take it in. I’ll be looking in to making my P doses larger. That does make sense the larger my buds get the more the deficiency is noticeable. Any quick fixes? Money is an issue on this project. Thank you


#11

Maybe I should boil the bone meal into a litre of water until it’s completely dissolved. I’m really experimental but this issue is making me scratch my head a little more than usual.


#12

most quick fixes are chemical nutrients or purchases or like bonemeal are meant to be mixed into soil and break down through grow there likely are ferments which may help but they take time to make too? Microbes like Mammoth-P are used quite often to breakdown P to more plant viable form but also big expense


#13

After doing a little more research. I believe it’s simply a N deficiency, soft yellow leaves at the bottom eventually turning brown and falling off by their self being only in the bottom leaves and if anybody’s ever grown blue dream it’s very thirsty for nitrogen its whole life. I just never grown Autos before this is my first. Thanks for all the help I will be keeping this post updated, because I could be wrong!


#14

No quick fixes in soil. Leaves that are damaged are already gone, and you must monitor new growth.

Before I get into this too deep, I must ask; What did you spray on the leaves to make them so shiny? It looks to me like spray damage but, since you attempted to build a soil; It is hard to tell immediately how to fix this.

I look forward to you answer.

Also; I am legally blind, so if you do not use my “Support Ticket” correctly and j8ust jumble the info into one large paragraph…You are not helping me to help you.

If you follow our guidelines and fill out the ticket, it would be easier for all members and staff to help you in a more informed way.

Later, lw


#15

That’s what I’m thinking I have some of the same looking spit’s on my very bottom leaves that I know have been splashed with nutrient feedings


#16

You very well may need a touch more N in the feedings, but the purpling stems that I saw are P deficiency. You still need to wash off the leaves from the foliar feeding of Epson Salt. It’s reflecting some of the light on those leaves.


#17

Strain; sativa dominant feminized blue dream autoflowering

Soil in pots, YES

System type? N/A

PH of runoff or solution in reservoir? N/A

What is strength of nutrient mix? HOMEMADE

Indoor or Outdoor, INDOOR

Light system, size? 600W MH/HPS
Temps; Day, 30C° Night 21C°
Humidity; <45%

Ventilation system; RESIDENTIAL FAN (OSCILLATING)

AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier, NO

Co2; Yes, OUTSIDE UTILITY SHED GETS PRETTY GOOD CO2 INTAKE


#18

BINGO there @FloridaSon

That’s the first thing that came to me when I saw the pics.

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Hydrogen Peroxide (1 teaspoon per gallon of 35% H202)

SM-90 (1:5 ratio of SM-90 to water)

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#19

Don’t have wpm


#20

Will keep all that in mind if I do happen to get it, the foliar feeding spots on the leaf aren’t the problem. It’s the yellow spots on the leaf that’s some sort of deficiency.