I’m going to be doing a wash over pretty soon…
That means I will be running all strains through there last run… no more clones…
I will be getting all ilgm strains… 6 strains…
Strawberry, blueberry, mango , and 3 strains that my wife picks…
Starting freash…
I will start a thread and let you guys see how to get a strain into development… 1 to 2 years… maybe sooner because of the rdwc units… I luv them…
I’m in. Tag me please.
I’m sure I’ll disagree with a lot of people so I’ll try to avoid the more. . .argument prone. . .parts of possible discussion.
I make my own with some pure silver wire and a 12 volt DC source with current limited to about 15mA in distilled water (with, if I’m feeling impatient, a barely visible speck of potassium chloride salt to give the water just enough conductivity to get things started. Not needed as once enough silver is in the water the conductivity is fine). I test for sufficient concentration with a red laser to evaluate via Tyndall Effect, but you can use a TDS metre instead. Nerd note: You actually are mostly making Silver Hydroxide ions primarily here, with some colloidal silver. It’s the silver in a form it can pass into the leaves and plant tissue that is important and silver hydroxide is exactly equivalent in it’s ability to enter the plant and do what we want.
The silver inhibits ethylene production in the plant, which is a sex signaling chemical in many plants including cannabis. Silver is not mobile in plants so it’ll only work where you spray.
You want it to contact the growing tips to do the most good.
As for frequency of spraying, I do daily starting a week before I switch the lights if possible. You’ll get instant effects that way but if you wait until right during or after you might have a bit of a delay before male flowers show, possibly up to weeks, but usually no realy difference it time to see the first male flowers.
Personally, I take really small clones, root them and as soon as I see roots I start spraying them, a few days later flip the lights. This way I have a tiny male plant since only a few flowers at all are needed, I don’t contaminate the main plant and before the flowers open and release pollen I can throw said male showing clone in a clear bag to stop generalized pollen release. Then I mark a few buds with some code reflecting which male plant was used on said bud and only apply manually to that bud. that way I get very few seeded buds, but those buds are WELL seeded, and I know all the parents for any given seed. You don’t need to do it like that, I just am kinda scientific in my approach and goals.
Finally, genetic stability etc. Self crossing, you might get about 3 generations that way before the genes are getting a bit too damaged to really rely on them. Crossing within cultivar, if you start off with 10 unique seeds which means you have 10 unique but very similar genomes, you won’t have inbreeding problems for maybe 5-10 generations, but you won’t have a wide enough gene base to stabilize any traits. In other words, unless you are growing hundreds and doing a very disciplined breeding program, you will still be buying new seeds from a breeder who can every few years. Nothing wrong with that, they work hard and we benefit with health genes in our plants.
I’ll stop babbling now, but on my present grow I will be doing my personal methods, so, watch my grow I guess. Also, nothing wrong with the fan and just let the pollen go where it will method.
Oh, actually, finally seeds take a while to ripen, which means if you didn’t do a few isolated buds you can leave after the harvest to finish up then make sure fertilization happens as early as possible.
Thanks for the detailed response. Very informative. Thanks for the thought of the plastic bag and small clone suggestion. I would like a few extra seeds, I don’t need hundreds. So you say the genetics will remain mostly stable for about 3 generations of self pollinating? Or pollinating another female of the same strain.
I prefer the scientific approach, I would like to know the genetics. @SquidGrow
I know its an old thread but I used to work for a farm genetics company and we bred corn by putting bags over the sensitive plant parts then put the males bags over the female part. Im interested in producing seeds for hard to find bag seed, I’ll probably use those corndog bags from gas stations to put over the buds.
I would still recommend pollinating with a male in my opinion. Genetics would be more stabilized. @Razzledazzle my opinion has changed somewhat since that long ago.
You mean pollinating with a male to get seeds? I would like to but I have limited grow space and dont want to pollinate all the other females. I thought the silver basically made a cloned seed.
It would still work, it’ll pollinate everyone more than likely, even if it were feminized.
Ok, I thought application sites of the silver was where seeds developed. I always read spray a couple of the little buds on the bottom…
But you’re saying when they transition from f to m on those buds they end up pollinating the rest of the plant?
And others in the area.
I see what you’re saying after I put my thinking cap on lol sometimes I read and reply while I’m stoned. Apologies sir
Good stuff Willy!
I can’t believe that guy was doing that much metal derivative. He’d be more famous if he turned silver.