Chocolope and White Widow - 2nd Grow - Learn with me

Hi everyone, this is my second grow. The first was a rousing success thanks in no small part to everyone here so I want to help by sharing every detail I can think of about my grow thus far and I welcome y’all to join me as I finish the flowering stage. I wish I had been better about taking pictures this whole time but that’ll have to be my goal for the next journal!

Chocolope (C)
White Widow (W)

○ Lights:
3 Black Dog Phytomax-2 200 lights on a Light Rail 3.5 mover. Height per Black Dog schedule.
2 lights for seedling and early veg, 3 lights for mid veg through flowering.

○ Nutrients:
FoxFarm full line, dose per schedule.
Schedule will begin within 5 days of seedlings breaking soil per Light Warrior instructions.

○ PH:
Oscillating around 6.5.
Using General Hydroponics pH Up & Down.
Will test pH of water (after adding nutrients when applicable), then adjust aiming at 6.5. If 6.5 first try, then water with that. Otherwise, in example if pH was 6.4 last feed, then anything from 6.5-6.8 is fine and the next time aim for 6.2-6.5. Watering without nutrients will not be pH’ed.

○ Pruning:
Plants will be grown to 12" then trained into ScrOG. Trying to keep pruning and defoliation low, felt like I overdid it on the first grow. Branches that don’t have a clear space to grow into or that conflict with a better placed branch above will be removed.

○ Soil:
FoxFarm Light Warrior (L)
Mother Earth Size 3 Perlite (P)
Seedling - Mesh nursery bags, 1/3 P, 2/3 L.
Early Veg - 1 gal SmartPot fabric transplant pots, 1/3 P, 2/3 L.
Mid Veg+ - 2 plants per 20 gal SmartPot fabric pot, 1/4 P, 3/4 L

○ Space:
4’Lx2’Wx8’H grow area in a 11’Lx4’Wx8’H converted storage room.
Grow area divided into 2 2’x2’ areas, one for each ScrOG.

○ Temp:
Daytime 85F, nighttime 75F. Temps per Black Dog schedule.

○ Ventilation:
AC - Royal Sovereign mini split AC & heater, fan running on high and pointed at oscillating fans. Located on opposite side of the room from the Output line intake.
Input - Inside house air to HEPA filter to 6" AC Infinity Cloudline fan to above AC input.
Output - Room air to GHydro carbon filter to 8" AC Infinity Cloudline fan to Vivosun noise reducer to inside house on opposite side of room from Input line intake.
Movement - Two oscillating fans mounted to the wall 6.5’ high on rubber vibration reducing feet, pointed at grow area.

○ Water:
Rain barrel water, EC 0.0, pH 7.0.

○ Log:
042721 - Prepared mix of 1 part H2O2 10 part H2O and filled plastic cups. Dropped two CW in 2 cups. Placed cups in grow room with all light off, temperature 85F.
042921 - All seeds have sunk to the bottom of cups. Planted CW in nursery bags in mix of 1/3 perlite, 2/3 Light Warrior moistened with pH 6.5 water. PLANTED AT 3/4 INCH DEEP, MUCH BETTER RESULTS FOLLOWED VS 1/2 INCH LAST TIME. Set bags in seedling tray and put on lid. Set tray under 2 BD 200 lights at 27". Set light timer to 18/6, 18:00-12:00. Keeping tray full of a low layer of water, not touching the bottom of the bags.
050121 - DAY 1 - FF Seedling Week First leaves were out, first watering, EC 0.0, pH 7.
050321 - Bags dry, fed per F seedling week, E.C 0.7, pH 6.3.
050521 - Bags dry, Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.

050721 - DAY 7 - FF Week 1 Soil had settled after yesterday’s watering, added a bit more soil to bags.
050821 - Bags dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 1, fed till runoff, EC 0.7, pH 6.6.
051021 - Bags dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.
051221 - Bags dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.

051421 - DAY 14 - FF Week 2 Bags dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 2, fed till runoff, EC 2.1, pH 6.4
051721 - Bags dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.
051921 - Bags dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.

052121 - DAY 21 - FF Week 3 Bags dry. Lots of roots peeking out of the nursery bags. Replanted in 1 gal pots by peeling off the bags from the root mass. Very healthy roots on the plants, mass is holding together but isn’t too tight and no root wrapping occurred. 3 weeks seems to be a good amount of time in the bags. Fed per FF schedule for Week 3, fed till runoff, EC 2.6, pH 6.7
052321 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.
052621 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7. Plants have almost doubled in size since repotting. Switched on 3rd light.

052821 - DAY 28 - FF Week 4
053021 - Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 4, fed till runoff, EC 2.9, pH 6.4
060321 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.0, pH 7.

060421 - DAY 35 - FF Week 4 Continuing FF Week 4 till flowering per FF schedule. Will grow plants till 2/3 of the ScrOG is full.
060621 - Soil dry. Plants appear to have a Mg deficiency, purple stems on the fan leaves and now purple creeping up the trunk. Watered with General Hydroponics Ca/Mg per bottle directions, EC 0.1, pH 8.1
060821 - Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 4, fed till runoff, EC 2.9, pH 6.7
060921 - Replanted CW into 2 20 gal pots. Extremely healthy roots on the plants, the kind of root mass I usually only see on nursery plants. Clearly the various FF root products in the line are doing something good. No root wrapping again, just a basically perfect lush root mass. Placed the ScrOG screen above the plants and bent them under to begin filling it. The plants are about 6” taller than the screen, some minor super-cropping was used on one plant to bend it. No plant ties are needed at this time, but I will add them as needed to keep the plants under the screen. Not topping has been done on the plants and most branches will be grown into the screen. Branches that don’t have a clear space to grow into or that conflict with a better placed branch above will be removed.

061121 - DAY 42 - FF Week 4 Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1.
061521 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1.

061821 - DAY 49 - FF Week 4
061921 - Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 4, fed till runoff, EC 3.0, pH 6.3
062321 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1.

062521 - DAY 56 - FF Week 4
062721 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1.

062821 - DAY 60 FF Week 5 - FLR DAY 0 Plants have filled 2/3 of the ScrOG. Flipped light schedule to 12/12, 18:00-06:00. Lowered lights to 15” per light instructions.
070121 - Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 5, fed till runoff, EC 2.9, pH 6.8

070421 - DAY 67 FF Week 6 - FLR DAY 7 Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1. First buds appearing. CaMg has been helping. No Mg deficiency is apparent in the recent growth and green is creeping back into the trunk and main branches. Because I use rainwater, I will add CaMg every time I water for the rest of this grow and likely every watering in future grows.
070721 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1.
071021 - Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 6, fed till runoff, EC 3.0, pH 6.3

071121 - DAY 74 FF Week 7 - FLR DAY 14
071321 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, added CaMg per bottle. EC 0.1, pH 8.1.
071521 - Soil dry. Per FF schedule, flushed with FF Sledgehammer.

071821 - DAY 81 FF Week 8 - FLR DAY 21 Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 8, fed till runoff, EC 3.2, pH 6.6. Per FF schedule week 7 nutrients were skipped since a feeding didn’t end up occurring last week.
072121 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.1, pH 8.1. Added CaMg per bottle.
072321 - Soil dry. Watered till runoff, EC 0.1, pH 8.1. Added CaMg per bottle.

072521 - DAY 88 FF Week 9 - FLR DAY 28
072621 - Soil dry. Fed per FF schedule for Week 9, fed till runoff, EC 2.7, pH 6.4.

White Widow in the foreground, Chocolope in the background:

Under the ScrOG:

Chocolope:


White Widow:


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072621 - Plants appeared to enjoy their feeding yesterday, leaves were praying toward the lights. Buds continue to swell and are beginning to stack. C is still stretching a bit and I trimmed some leaves around bud tops to keep them from covering other bud sites and increase airflow between the tight sites.

White Widow in the foreground, Chocolope in the background:

Under the ScrOG:

Chocolope:

White Widow:

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I’ll be tagging along definitely love the set up and the girls are looking great they look to be a little heavy on nitrogen tho with how dark the leafs are

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Gonna tag along if you dont mind me. Crazy set up they are huge man

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Glad to have you following along, and thanks for the heads up about Nitrogen. Hopefully the flush I just did will take care of it. I’ll go for the low end of the EC on the next feeding too.

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Thank you, glad to have you tag along!

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In case anyone is curious, I shared the room design previously:

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072721 - Right before lights out for the day I saw a leaf with the characteristic clawing of too much Nitrogen, @The1stTimer called it right. Watered with pure rainwater till runoff to flush.

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How big are your #3 perlite. All i could find was #4 and they r huge like driveway rocks lol. Have to break them down a bit ahen adding. This couple pots i filled i just left it but i think it needs to be smaller. Ive seen #2 and it looks a perfect size lol

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Just make sure to re feed after doing a flushing especially while in flower just go lite on the N

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The #3 perlite from Mother Earth is mostly the size of big peas, like 1.5 cm diameter. Some chunks are marble sized, and there was about 3 cups of powder in the bag as well. It was a big bag though so that wasn’t a negative, still much less powder than I generally find in a bag of generic hardware store perlite. I mixed the powder into the soil first and then added the chunks.

072821 - No further signs of Nitrogen issues after the flush right before lights out yesterday. The soil is still very damp so I’ll give the plants a day to dry out a bit and then re-feed. Pinched some fan leaves that were growing into each other and moved some of the C branches further under the screen. It’s still stretching over a week after W stopped.

White Widow in the foreground, Chocolope in the background:

Under the ScrOG:

Chocolope:

White Widow:

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Love all those tops. Looks great!

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I use this. $17 a 2 cubic yard bag. Home Depot.

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072921 - Soil still moist but feeding anyway to replace nutrients lost by the flush. Fed per FF schedule for Week 9, EXCEPT skipped Grow Big since it’s 6-4-4. This would have been the last week with Grow Big anyway. Fed till runoff, EC 1.8, pH 6.6. C is still stretching, so I tucked some branches down. W is stacking and fattening up wonderfully. On both plants I pinched a bunch of fan leaves from the buds and some sugar leaves that were shading other bud sites.

White Widow in the foreground, Chocolope in the background:

Under the ScrOG:

Chocolope:

White Widow:

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073021 - No signs of new stress after yesterday’s feeding. Pinched a few more fan leaves.

White Widow in the foreground, Chocolope in the background:

Side of the ScrOG:

Chocolope:

White Widow:

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073121 - Mushrooms have appeared on the soil (photos below). If I saw these in my regular outside garden I’d assume it was a positive sign of a healthy fungal colony, but I don’t recall ever seeing photos of other indoor gardens with mushrooms. What do y’all think?

Plants look good otherwise, C looks like it might finally be finished with its stretch. Yesterday C didn’t look like it had stretched much, and today it looks like the buds are finally starting to fatten up. W continues to stack and fatten wonderfully. I pinched more fan leaves and a few sugar leaves from the buds that were growing into each other or shading bud sites.

White Widow in the foreground, Chocolope in the background:

Side of the ScrOG:

Chocolope:

White Widow:

Mysterious Mushrooms:




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I didn’t see any ads, so I hope it’s ok to post this link.

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I found the mushrooms beautiful, so I done a quick google search and learned something new!

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It’s really cool what those mushrooms are gonna do for your plant!

they are what is called a saprotrophic mushroom, which just means that they feed on dead organic matter. This means that they will feed on the dead roots, decaying potting material, insects, etc, and then release the material back into the soil in a way that can be used by the plant as food.

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Awesome, thank you for the info Brobdab! :smiley:

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