ok at first glance this is gonna look like a ton of defoliation, and it is - sorta.
i removed about 100 smaller branches that were not going to contribute directly to a cola. and i removed 20-30 minor colas. i kept most large fan leaves to keep photosynthesis going.
i have 21 colas now. ill let her grow another week and cull the weakest ones.
thoughts?
!That is quite a bit of defoliation but itās not too much necessarily in my opinion. I think if you do it slowly and spread it across a few days it wonāt go into shock, but youāll loose at most a day or so then sheāll get on with it.
Just gotta be sure that sheās healthy and thriving before doing something like that. You donāt want to kick her in the face if sheās already down.
Ok, you did a lot. Hopefully not too much. Now give her time to recover.
she comes from austere beginnings. i think she will be okay.
what can i do with light to help her now? shes at 18/6. Do i give her more, less, or same? @raustin @Mr.Indica
Steady as she goes, you donāt want to change anything.
You shocked her good. Thatāll teach you.
Nah, sheāll be fine.
Yeah, itās shock. Just donāt mess with her more and leave everything else the same it was before the defoliation. Sheāll resume normal growth in 2 days tops.
I agree with @raustin, sheāll be fine.
slap on the wrist.
now we see how stable her genetics are
I wouldnāt question her stability, but rather her resiliency 
Sometimes you gotta burn your hand I guess thereās really no reason to take off lower fan leaves unless damaged you want your precious photosynthesis to take place while youāre taking away its storage Basin are the banks for photosynthesis sugars you keep saying photosynthesis but youāre defeating the purpose of it the plant has to have a balance above-ground and below-ground by taking too much off top what you did youāre sending signals to the plant for it to go into a screeching halt and since you are just entering flowering with an auto you could have greatly affected Bud production think about it if youāre stunting a plant right when itās about to start its basis for all of its fruit itās going to be lacking so if you want any chance of having any kind of decent yield LEAVE IT ALONE you are officially a Sado cultivator in my book LOL LOL LOL you need to get a spiked collar for your plant and name it some degrading name back to Earth though fan leaves are there for a reason quit removing them really unless theyāre damaged leave them be maybe a couple here or there but thereās no need to defoliate until your plant is well in the flowering and itās past its stretch because potential Bud sides below fan leaves most likely will poke their head up and above the ones that you would have normally removed do yourself a favor and let Mother Nature have a little bit of influence in your grow sheās been doing this for a long time
Your tone can be ready into as rude just FYI. Iām not sure if thatās your intention, but I would imagine Iām not the only one noticing this.
We already explained that we feel he took the defoliation a bit too far, but there is merit to defoliating in an indoor environment.
In nature, the sun hits every angle of the plant at one point or another every single day. Thatās why defoliation isnāt necessary outdoors, but indoors, if done properly, it can increase your yield. This has been documented and proven time and time again.
In the end, we all make mistakes, and we learn from them.
You got to be kidding me ā¦ Iāve been on this thread since day one @Mr.Indica and me and @basementstealth have been discussing this daily even so if he has a problem with my comments it would have been stated 30 or 40 comments ago when I said the same thing over and over again and my warning foretold the present reaction and Iām saying that first stage shock has set in ā¦ At a really unfortunately bad timingā¦ In an auto at that Iām just trying to point out the reasons y u donāt donāt what people tell you not to do or donāt do as normal practice ā¦ Trying to make it make more sense since he keeps pushing the envelope hopefully the package makes it to the destination if you know what I mean Iām not rude Iām being firm
okay. I appreciate you @Mr.Indica. @fano_man has a tendency to be like this. I appreciate his perspective. And yes I would prefer if he were more kind, but thats not everyones bag. he also has a tendency to run salt in, even when the point has been made he likes to share in his opinion too, again just his bag. Im not sure I agree with his perspective, but im confident he doesnāt mean to come off the way he does
also, @fano_man, fyi i didnt defoliate as a rogue instrument. i did so under the supervision of growers on this site that i trust. And yes i freely admit i over did it and the plant went into shock. If i had any desire to hide this or resist learning a lesson i simply wouldnāt have posted the pictures.
that being said. i feel confident itll be okay and she will recover. or she wont and i will have learned an even more important lesson.
at this point the main thing i want is to see is the outcome. i am literally doing this for the joy of growing. i dont even know what ill do with the harvest. lol!!
Naw see thatās funny because I donāt always agree with ppl and be the secondary parrot ā¦ I said the opposite I said dont remove @raustin said do it but lightly, lightly is cool Iām just trying to point out u ask for advice and then dont follow it donāt make sense but now I see that it does make sense smhā¦ Wonāt be putting my sense where itās unwelcomed shoulda said something from the beginning instead of having me waste all my time trying to help you and you talk down of my help thatās quite ā¦ Aggravating ā¦gotta watch my words around here good luck bro
And Iām quick to respond and I donāt go by other secondary knowledge I speak from my experience and common sense as well I have an extensive schooling background in environmental science and weed aināt nobl fifferent then anythother plant as to mean they have basic laws that canāt be broken without consequences or sever environmental manipulation just cuz Iām new to the site doesnāt mean anything my friend carried my love for environment to a weekend job growing and learning 90%of these techniques for weed that are universal to mist plants my weekend hobby/jobs was cultivating a 15 acre plot and a 10 acre plot of exotic fruit trees and bananas 16 types of mangoes 20 types of bananas ā¦ And they all basically work the same bro I mean well ā¦ I donāt know itās just me but I type my palming foreheads emotion into my text sorry for the passion in my explanations I can be to Frank btbibdont mean no harm so take m for what I am a helping hand
ok thanks @fano_man. as i said i appreciate your perspective. dont take it personally if i dont follow your advice. it doesnt mean i dont believe you, but sometimes i need to see things for myself. but u could chill a bit, ya know? that would be nice
Ur the only one that got the all caps because your the only one who doesnāt follow advice itās all good man Iāll still sleep fine tonight hope you do to with your girl being all stressed I know that translates to your mood as well so no harm no foul lesson learned hope itās not wasted time from here out witch it could be if you do anything else crazy to her
