4th grow, ILGM fems Maui Wowie/Gold Leaf/Cali Dream/Chronic Widow three-stage perpetual grow attempt, indoor, soilless


#21

One up, three to go


#22

Updates for the week:

Here’s a pic of the 3 gold leafs that have sprouted. My streak is at risk as one hasn’t popped out. In my impatience, I spread the soil out to look for the seed and couldn’t locate it - so either its in there an I couldn’t see it, and maybe there is hope, or I somehow fumbled the transfer from the soak to the cup, which would be a bummer.

For the Maui Wowies - I transplanted them into 10 gallon fabric pots in roots organics. I am interesting in seeing if they can fill out the 10 gallon pots over hte next ten weeks, or if its overkill. I’ve mostly used 5 gallon fabric pots on my first three grow.

I also reinstalled new mylar and started foliar spray per the ILGM fert guidelines. Next Sunday, I will flip them over to 12/12 and I will install the scrog screen. It will be my first scrog.


#23

@Sixpackdad since you are flipping to 12/12 next week, we’re on about the same schedule. I just didn’t think mine has been growing long enough to flip yet. Is there a benefit to flipping now rather than wait a while longer?


#24

I think some folks extend their veg cycle a bit when they are topping, LSTing, scrogging, and other more aggressive/training type stuff. It also gets you a taller plant with more nodes. The veg phase is also a good time for the plant to recover from those stresses, as opposed to the stretch/early-flowering stage.

In my particular circumstance, I need them out by early January so I can transition my gold leafs in there. It is also six plants in a relatively small space of 33x46x80", so I don’t want them to get too much bigger. With the transplant over the weekend, I figure I’d give them one more week of veg to get estalbihed, too. I am also starting to rethink scrogging them and maybe just going with a lollipop or sea of green concept - it’s getting crowded.

I have heard that the earliest one should trigger to flower would be when your plant is starting to show pre-flower pistil, which is usually a little after week four. My plants has had them for about a week.


#25

Here’s some updated pics and some concerns. @raustin

These are the 3 gold leafs. They look ok, but not great. They are about an inch tall and not stretching, which is good, but the first true leaves don’t look super healthy - minor discoloration on two and one is a little wrinkly. They have been watered by a mister at 6.5ph mostly, and I pour a little bit in if the cup feels light… They are in miracle gro indoor potting mix, which is peat moss, coco, perlite, and fertilizer. This is technically a soilless media, maybe? Maybe I should drop the pH and water more frequently to runoff?

Here’s the Maui Wowies. Overall they look good. But I did notice some discoloration on four leaves on three different plants, maybe a mag issue, something else?. They all seem to be from the 5th node of the plant. Maybe it’s just old issues showing up. Maybe not. I am watering tomorrow and will check the runoff ppms, which were 600-1100 last time I checked. They also got transplanted last weekend, so maybe just a little stress showing itself.


#26

The seedlings are getting nute burn from that Miracle Grow soil. Every time you water that soil you’re giving them a dose of nutes, this is why wer tell people not to use MG soil.

Your big girls look like they are getting a magnesium deficiency. If your Ph is good, then give them some Epsom salts, or Cal Mag.


#27

On the MW’s, the pH going in is 5.8 and coming out is about 5.9 to 6.3. I got some epsom salts floating around and will go that route.

I ran about a liter of ~6.25pH water through each gold leaf. pH and ppms of runoff were 5.8 to 5.9 and 500-600 ppms. At mid-flow, ppms were over 1300. Perhaps, I’ll water to runoff for the time being and run the risk of overwatering, rather than watering a teeny tiny bit/misting, during which the time release ferts build-up excessively.


#28

Your Ph is a little low for soil. You need to get it up to 6.3 minimum.


#29

If the medium is just peat moss (2/3 of total), coco, perlite, time-release ferts, and a wetting agent, doesn’t that make it “soilless”. Soil needs to have some sort of humus or vermicast as its majority to be a true soil? I went with 6.25 in because that’s what I see people who use pro-mix recommend, which is a similar make up sans the MG ferts.


#30

I see, I use promix, but I keep my Ph at 6.5.


#31

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#32

@Mikeinsome @Sirdankz @RandyShorton @heybudletsparty @irma1010 @NreeG @Kenmcqueen @Zsitchin


#33

I worry that no matter your pH, you’ll keep getting burned. Supposed to be enough nutrients in it to last 6 months.


#34

I’m on high alert. The MWs made it through. I will be transplanting them into coco next weekend. I could probably do it this weekend, but they are still a bit small. I’m going to water every other day to keep flushing out the ferts and keep a close eye for overwatering symptoms.


#35

which promix? promix hp with mycorise?


#36

If you’re still getting the brown spots and leaves turning brown try to up your nutes and see how that goes. I had the same problem because I had a little bit of miracle grow with pete moss perlite and cocoir. I let the mix go without any nutes for too long and I got brown spots. Then later after they went away they popped up again so I upped the nutes and the progression of the brown spots halted.


#37

@basementstealth @Sirdankz

For the solo cups they are in a hot miracle grow potting mix, which I think is technically a soilless medium. Been pHing at 6.5 until yestetday.

When I transplant to bigger pots I am using coco based roots organics. I pH at 5.8. I’m going to up the nutres ( been using 1/4 strength) and add some Epsom salts tonight during my normal watering period.


#38

Yes, Promix HP.


#39

@raustin i ask because there seems to be many different types of promix hp. i thought u grow in ffof


#40

I used to grow in ocean forest, but this current grow I switched to Promix and I’m never going back. I love this stuff, so much easier to keep proper Ph and to feed.