This is why I left politics.
I made no false statements. Maybe generalized, but certainly not false. I know the difference between real fact and made up conspiracy theory.
The very idea that atheists are trying to take over is preposterous. The notion that non-believers are trying to somehow get rid of Christmas is a fantasy. I live in the most blue, atheist place in the country and right now it looks like Christmas was puked up all over the entire city! I have a nativity scene in my lobby.
Some people need to get off the internet and read a real NEWSpaper. None of this is true. It is conspiracy theory at its most corrosive.
"We say we're for free speech. Most believers would disagree with that now. For voicing our beliefs, we are labeled many negative things. It's clear that this country was founded on, and thrived under, Judeo-Christian beliefs."
No one is telling believers that they cannot speak their beliefs! The only thing they can't do is deprive someone else of their civil rights, like gay marriage for example.
This country was not founded on any religious rights. Many of the founding fathers were not even Christian. I know most believers don't want to admit it, but it is the truth. I'm sorry. They were smart enough to keep religion out and this is why we have always had the separation of church and state... always.
"If that was not true, they would not be passing all the new laws and removing, once honored, documents. Have you noticed how much our society has declined since speaking of God started becoming taboo?"
The only laws that are being passed recently are to bring civil rights to more people and to be no longer limited to white men. No documents have been removed -- I have no idea what you could be talking about.
Society has not declined in the least, but progress takes time, and God is certainly not taboo. However, when God takes the place of science, or fact then yes, god must take a back seat, because the one thing you forget is that there are many gods of many people living right here in this country. Even before white, European man got here. So who's god should we be basing our laws?
"Corruption, crimes, oppression...not many people are better off now, (personally, not materially.), than their grandparents. Things are easier and more convenient now, but not better."
Things are better for many people, not everyone for certain, but for women and some minorities it has gotten better, slowly over excruciating time. Crime is down almost everywhere. The poor and middle-class have health insurance and a safety net so they don't go bankrupt over an illness.
Look, personally, I don't care. I'm quite wealthy and none of this affects me. I have company health insurance, a 401k, and lots of perks. But I do care because I want everyone to be better off, not just me. I am perfectly happy to have my taxes raised so that others, who are not as fortunate as me, can have an easier and more fulfilling life.
This is the last time I will speak on this topic in this forum. I know I made some generalizations, but I'm not going to look up facts (from real sources) to prove each point. Not because I cant, but because I'm sick of doing it, and then being told that the NY Time's or Washington Post are nothing but propaganda, which is laughable.
I came to this wonderful community to grow some weed and maybe make some new friends, and I will not be suckered into a discussion I've had a thousand times on my own political blogs that end in fights and hatred. I'm done.
I'm sorry if I sound like a silly elitist, and I hope this didn't sound too angry, but I've been having this same, old talk for the past year and a half and I'm tired. I'm not angry, I'm just annoyed.
Thanks for reading