4x2 light advice

Currently own 2x Mars 300LED. (Dont mind the “fan” have two new 6" clip fan). Awaiting my 4" inline fan for exhaust. I am wondering what would be best for me to add for more lights… I was thinking maybe a 700W Mars II LED, or maybe a 250W HPS… HPS would prob get me too much temp…

Need imput please :smiley:

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I would go with the led my self
Your looking for around 400 watts of actual power you can go down as low as 280 for for space but I try to stay on the high end myself really a second 300 watt would probably be enough
If you go with the 700 w mars you’ll be golden
And your heat will be much more controllable
@Blasting FYI welcome to the forum
@Niala has a bunch of good info on lights haven’t seen him a few days but maybe he see this tag and drop by
Happy growing if I can assist further just tag me
:v: CB :cowboy_hat_face:

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Yeah, was thinking LED myself, do you have any other suggestion like other brands etc. What brand of leds do you own? if I spend close to 400$ CAD I wanna get best led for my buck :slight_smile:

By the way thanks :smiley: You can check out my grow journal if you want :slight_smile: Me and Niala net already!

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I use the galaxy hydro / Roleadro brands same company
I have a total of 9 all full spectrum I love them
I just picked up a new one the other day 67$ US
Off Amazon
It’s a 300watt
You can check out the line in Amazon
Company stand behind there products as well 100%
@Screwauger also uses this brand he had some good experience with service after the sale :+1:
I myself have had any issues with them in fact I think his isssue turned out to be a faulty outlet in his house they still sent him a new light and let him keep old one :+1: now he has two working light fir the price of 1 hahah

All true @Countryboyjvd1971 @Blasting

Overall I am very pleased with these LED’s. I have four of these in a 39"x39"x70" tent

Hey CB- I was amazed at the density if the tops in my first grow using these lights. Do you find LED’s make really really dense (like rock hard nugs) buds or that it was the strains I grew?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PH1MQV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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@Blasting

Check these out. I dd a little digging for ya …lol

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Extremely bright, don’t look directly,please wear your sunglasses when looking at it.
Indoors use only,not water-proof
Stop using the light when the fan stops spinning.
Maintain stable voltage to avoid any damaged to light fixture.

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1 pair of Steel hanging kits 

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The file i have has pic’s why they ddn’t upload i have no idea. But these all can be found on Amazon

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Will

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@Blasting awesome @Niala is a good guy glad you connected
@garrigan62 made a bunch of good options as well
Happy light purchasing lol I had good results with the lights I use which is why I’ve stayed loyal to them
I’d probably stay with the same mfg as you’ve already own but that’s me
Anyway I’d love to check out your journal tag me in when you get a min so I don’t need to search for it bro thanks
:v:CB :cowboy_hat_face:

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@Countryboyjvd1971 and @Blasting and @Niala

When I get ready to buy I;ll be consulting you on which L.E.D to purchase cause by no means do i know L.E.Ds. You fokes have grown using them I haven’t

Wlll

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Hahaha so humble @garrigan62
How you feeling buddy
Your pick some good ones for sure buddy if I had the coin I’d drop it on the platinum series or the kind
For sure
I found that you don’t necessarily need to spend those numbers tho but the technology is definitely there and moving faster then we can throw $ at it hahaha next year who knows lol
I’ve been buying cob style light they run a few degrees warmer then standard leds but I like the even light given off from them
Oh @Blasting I recommend only buying full spectrum light as well not sure if I mentioned that

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@Countryboyjvd1971 I think you are right and I will most likely stay with mars hydro, i think that 700W panel will be a great add to my tent. I needed some advice to see if there wasnt a best option. Thanks everyone!

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@Blasting You will not go wrong with the Mars hydro II 700 W…

All the suggestion made by @garrigan62 @Countryboyjvd1971 @Screwauger are good …

I own the King plus 1000 W double chips and I am very happy with it :wink: :+1::ok_hand:

If you want other suggestions, please tag me :grinning:

P.s. I will build one this winter or next spring, one who will look like @MAXHeadRoom one with my King plus in the middle of 2 build ones…

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I believe par-horta is a reputable source up by you guys for diy lighting and custom fixtures. Not sure if they have qb’s though.

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Thanks @dbrn32 for mention par-horta , I did’nt knew them. … For now they are only offering the Bridgelux Vero 29 DIY kit, no qb’s, but maybe they will if we ask ! ? :wink: :innocent:

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I wasn’t sure, but I would think that it wouldn’t hurt to reach out to them.

I know pricing sometimes gets tricky with import taxes, international shipping, and such. So a domestic source for you could be a very good thing. I know that cobkits sources boards directly from hlg, perhaps par-horta would set up a similar relationship if demand is big enough. There’s just as good of chance they are working on their own version as well. With the success of mid power pcb’s, it wouldn’t surprise me.

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I only had price problem shipping fees when it come from some of the U.S. furnisher… Some of them will charge 2-3X the price of the item, just because they are “too greedy” :wink:

I don’t mind paying the federal and provincial taxes (around 15%) plus reasonnable shipping fees and money exchange rate if I don’t pay in U.S. dollar, so around 50-60% more, but not 200% , lol :wink: :innocent:

Anyway, like you said, most probably some Canadian compagny will soon end up with something :wink: or if demand is there with hlg Samsung…:wink:

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I hear ya buddy, the greed overpowers all!

From a diy standpoint, one could easily source most or all of the parts in large quantities and save people a ton of money. Even if that person were to profit on a small level, there’s still room for substantial savinga. Unfortunately, you couldn’t just post up here or on any forum without paying advertising fees and such. Once everyone gets their pockets filled, it’s hardly worth the effort.

Hi, I know of a site that you can get LEDs for that money. I purchased a 600w viparspectra full spectrum LED for $272.00 CAD delivered to my door( I live in N.B. ). I don’t know if I am allowed to mention it here.

First post here and I hope it’s okay that I resurrected this old post but there seems to be a couple people here that know Their LED’s and one from Canada (as I am as well).
Growing cannabis is now legal in my province and I’m looking in the future at a 4x2 tent Aswell but currently have nothing other than seeds and one is being planted today until I can afford a full tent with filter etc etc.
What lighting do you recommend as unlike the OP I don’t have mars hydro’s already and I heard they were low quality lights that tend to burn out after 2 grows or so.

I don’t have a soldering gun and not much time on my hands due to a 14hr 7 days a week work schedule that has me away for long periods of time.
So what should I get and who sells it in Canada or doesn’t cost a fortune to import it into Canada?

Ps this is what I was considering (the 200w version I would assume) so looking for suggestions
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B06XKW7M92/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=A3FH4JZGPGFSAR&psc=1

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I would look up horticulture lighting group canada @nicky , you are kinda right about mars hydro light, i modified most of my china fixture already to have white and more efficient light.

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